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Hi. The Raspberry Pi 3B/3B+ isn't a supported board. The images are menth to be used on Raspberry Pi4 and 400 only. That you can make it work on the 3B+ is just a bonus. I noticed the devs have been working on RPi4 images, and this will probably be one of the changes made. And I think they will have good reasons for this. Not that I know the reason...

Strange. I was contacted by them to review an Mekotronics R56 Mini PC. Mine would have a metal case, but I think the board is the same. Didn't notice it doesn't have an sd-card. They mentioned it'd have SATA, don't see that on yours. Is there any reason you need Armbian? Is there something wrong with their images? Do they actually have images to download? It states on their website to have Debian 11 and Ubuntu 20.04. I didn't look into it yet. My guess would be it's a bit early for Armbian on it. Only RK3588 that I know of has Armbian is Rock5B. So if you'd be willing to put in the work to compare rock5B dtb with the dtb of their images and manage to get it working. But if no dev has this device, then I don't think real Armbian support will come. I'm no dev... ps. Now I see the SATA, on top of the device with room for a drive. That is nice.

@gene1934You didn't give the needed information to be able to help you well. What image are you using? What desktop? What kernel? ... This is indeed something Armbian could do without. I've had simular problems with other boards. I always disable it manually. It depends on what desktop you are using how to disable it. For xfce4 you need to install xfce4-power-manager And I think you need to work with screensaver to disable display and not go into sleep. With other desktops it might be different. The second question. Many ways to check this. Simplest should be "df -H" The once with "/" is your boot device. Or you can just check in a file manager what size it is(if eMMC and sd are not the same size) Or use gnome-disks to see what's used. One thing I can tell you is that when you reboot the M5 with an sd-card inserted it will always boot from eMMC. Cold boot it will boot from sd.

I tried my VIM3 but the damn thing doesn't seem to be working anymore. I dropped it a few weeks ago. Tried it for the first time now and no boot. The LED goes off every 2/3 seconds as if it's trying to boot again. I tried Khadas image, different sd-cards. All the same, also not booting from eMMC... So I guess I'll have to be cut from the maintainer list for VIM3. I'll try the VIM2, BPiM5, P1, N2+ and Odroid C2 tomorrow.

Armbian Jammy Cinnamon on PC.

Don't set locales on location. Choose "no" when asked at boot. And select the locales you want. I'm from Belgium but want English. So I choose. No, 47, 7, 6, 1 Or change locales with "sudo armbian-config" No idea why you have armhf packages. Did you install box86 or something else that use armhf?

Another update. I've tried the same 6.0.6 Jammy image on another eMMC and this boots from sd. This is I think an eMMC from Pine64. The other was from Hardkernel with "Only for C" written on it. So with the old 4.4 (and probably old u-boot) on the Hardkernel eMMC I'm able to boot every image from SD. But with a later image I'm unable to. It didn't boot from eMMC either. This was a quick fix at a moment I didn't have time to investigate. But the eMMC boot doesn't go well. Stops with BusyBox & initramfs. It's more than I had with my other eMMC where it didn't initiate boot and didn't get anything on display.

So I wrote the 6.0.6 image to eMMC and as I expected the device doesn't boot anymore. Not from eMMC, not from sd. LED turns on, nothing comes on the display. Now I've got to screw it open again to write my old 4.4 image to eMMC. @Wilhelm MoserWhat do you have on your eMMC?

Armbian_22.08.10_Pinebook-pro_jammy_edge_6.0.6_cinnamon_desktop.img Armbian_22.11.0-trunk_Pinebook-pro_kinetic_edge_6.0.7_xfce_desktop.img Both also boot. Do you want me to install to eMMC to test? I can, I just hope it doesn't f up everything. I've got a non-functional image on my eMMC just for booting sd-cards. My last trip I couldn't boot the PBP anymore because of a new install. So my fix was to write this broken (4.4) image to eMMC to enable sd-boot. Bad fix...

Works sometimes. I've had it work a few minutes and then gone again. I'm able to boot this image : Armbian_22.08.7_Pinebook-pro_jammy_edge_5.19.16_cinnamon_desktop.img @Wilhelm MoserCan have to do with what you've got on your eMMC. I had this problem too with the wrong image on eMMC. Don't remember the details anymore. But had to write an old image to eMMC to get sd to boot. Don't want to install this image to eMMC to test, I've opened my PBP a bit too much and the screws are bad.

@WernerImages seem to be not available here. Always either 404 or https://armbian.hosthatch.com/dl/pinebook-pro/archive/Armbian_22.08.10_Pinebook-pro_jammy_edge_6.0.6_gnome_desktop.img.xz when I click one of the download links. Downloading from archives image from 22/10/02.

I can also add. There are multiple ways to install packages on Armbian(ubuntu/debian) There is the apt way where you find most software. But if you can't find it there, you can also try snap (sudo apt install snap snapd) There are a few nice programs there that aren't in the apt repo's. Like barrier(tool to share keyboard and mouse over different computers and operating systems) Then there is also the possibility of flatpak. (sudo apt install flatpak) Takes up a lot of space, but if it works... If you can't find it on any of those, then you can see if the source code can be downloaded and build for arm64/armhf. Most open-source projects allow this, and many have good instructions. For SBC, I advice not to buy the newest shiny thing with greatest specs. Do good research to find out what board/SoC is best supported. See if your devices work on it like wifi dongles or network adapters. Ask around. And then buy the board you know will fit your goals. With my first purchases I had luck that I bought the right boards for my goals. But after that I bought tons of devices expecting things that were not there. Most devices took years to work well, and many others never worked as they should've. I do like to tinker and try stuff till it works. But good research before buying saves you a lot of time to get things working.

That is more than reasonable. Would even be fantastic. I've got a few days. I just need the video to be out before the give away stops. That is a nice idea. I've never tried wayland on Armbian. I am now using wayland on Edge2 and VIM4. But without xwayland with GPU acceleration there's not much fun to it. So with a well supported SoC/GPU it must be a lot more fun.

@jock Sorry to bother you. I'm testing the OrangePi800, and it doesn't seem to have the media framework working on balbes150 his images. Do you know more about this? Igor directed me to this -> https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/4098 I'm no developer and have to admit I know little about this. I used to use the media script on Bionic and after that Buster and that ran great. But had not used RK3399 in a long time for that. I made a review video, but don't want the info to be outdated in a few days. Cheers.

Their kernel is 5.19.15-2 I'll mention they've got the device earlier and are further ahead for now. I did try the 5.18.5 Sid xfce image and there was no on-board wifi and even my 5Ghz dongle didn't work with it. 5.19.5 and 6.0.6 Jammy xfce were the best images I tried. I'm using my 5Ghz dongle on it and that works. Just only 2.4Ghz with on-board wifi. I do see my 5Ghz network, but can't connect. The same with OPiOS. But works with Manjaro. I tried LibreElec. OPiRK3399 version. It runs, but no on-board wifi and no sound. So not really useful. I'm gonna make the video now. Thank you for the great work.

Tried the 6.0.6 Jammy xfce4 image. Wifi works, but again my 5Ghz wifi is unable to connect. 5Ghz dongle works. I tested Manjaro yesterday and there the 5Ghz works as should. And also video playback there is perfect. It seems to have hardware accelerated video playback. No screen tearing, no reloads and perfect 1080p youtube and 1440p h264 video files. So for me Armbian is way better for gaming since I know how to install everything here with armbian-gaming. So I'll show that with gaming. And Manjaro is a good 2nd image for video playback and light desktop use. Tho more software works on Armbian in my experience. I hope the media framework can be brought back to life for Armbian on RK3399. I used to love working with it. Also found out that the strange color on my vga was due to a decaying vga cable. Tried with another cable and it works as it should. Doesn't work on 6.0.6. I think you know that. Also the on-board speaker doesn't work. But hdmi audio is working on 6.0.6 *** After reboot it's back. So seems sometimes audio devices don't wake up at boot. Cheers.

I did try to build a Buster image with your script but it never finished. I tried 2 times with the same result. [ o.k. ] Checking MD5 sum of installed packages [ debsums ] [ error ] ERROR in function create_rootfs_cache [ functions/cli/cli-entrypoint.sh:108 -> functions/main/default-build.sh:125 -> functions/main/rootfs-image.sh:65 -> functions/rootfs/create-cache.sh:229 -> functions/logging/traps.sh:0 ] [ error ] MD5 sums check of installed packages failed [ o.k. ] Process terminated [ error ] unmount_on_exit() called! [ functions/cli/cli-entrypoint.sh:108 -> functions/main/default-build.sh:125 -> functions/main/rootfs-image.sh:65 -> functions/rootfs/create-cache.sh:229 -> functions/logging/traps.sh:1 -> functions/main/rootfs-image.sh:0 ] [ o.k. ] Unmounting [ /home/nicod/build/.tmp/rootfs-1dc2499a-f3c6-4fea-a14d-e66babedf043/ ] [ error ] ERROR in function unmount_on_exit [ functions/cli/cli-entrypoint.sh:108 -> functions/main/default-build.sh:125 -> functions/main/rootfs-image.sh:65 -> functions/rootfs/create-cache.sh:229 -> functions/logging/traps.sh:1 -> functions/main/rootfs-image.sh:26 -> functions/logging/traps.sh:0 ] [ error ] debootstrap-ng was interrupted [ o.k. ] Process terminated I'll wait for your new images.

This was Linux 5.18.5-media and there was no wifi at all here. It was Sid I tried. The problem is that sometimes HDMI audio isn't there to choose from. Doesn't happen that often. But sometimes it's not there and I have to reboot to have hdmi-audio back. It might be because I'm using a Elgato 4K60 HDMI capture box. I do have issue's with that thing not always working. Thank you, I'll test a more recent Ubuntu with 5.18. The Sid I tested was the oldest I could find. So there might be the problem. I tried Sid because I had seen great improvements in supertuxkart on BPiM5 with Bullseye. Didn't see that on Sid here. I will test it again, and also test on my old pentium to see if it's normal there. I didn't try having only VGA running. I will wait for those before making the video. Now my 5.19.16 Jammy xfce4 image is almost perfect. Everything is running that I want to run. Only the HDMI audio that isn't always there. But that's a minor issue. I'll also try to build a Buster image from your build script to see if I can use the Media Framework on it. I do miss the perfect video playback on it. Thank you for the input. Helps a lot. I'll wait at least a day before making the video. Normally I was gonna make it today. Cheers.

Also sid 5.18.5 seems to be throttling at 70C while other images don't. Sid 22:06:30: 1608/1416MHz 5.90 95% 1% 94% 0% 0% 0% 70.0°C 22:06:40: 1608/1416MHz 5.93 85% 1% 83% 0% 0% 0% 69.4°C 22:06:52: 1512/1416MHz 6.02 94% 0% 94% 0% 0% 0% 70.0°C 22:07:07: 1512/1416MHz 6.53 86% 2% 84% 0% 0% 0% 70.6°C 22:07:19: 1608/1416MHz 6.57 89% 1% 88% 0% 0% 0% 68.9°C 22:07:31: 1512/1416MHz 6.63 95% 2% 93% 0% 0% 0% 70.0°C 22:07:41: 1608/1416MHz 6.44 79% 1% 78% 0% 0% 0% 68.9°C 22:07:52: 1800/1416MHz 6.85 99% 2% 96% 0% 0% 0% 68.9°C 22:08:02: 1608/1416MHz 6.88 99% 2% 96% 0% 0% 0% 68.9°C 22:08:12: 1512/1416MHz 6.74 94% 1% 93% 0% 0% 0% 68.9°C Jammy 5.19 12:15:18: 1800/1416MHz 6.95 99% 2% 95% 0% 0% 1% 68.3°C 12:15:28: 1800/1416MHz 6.95 92% 1% 89% 0% 0% 0% 71.1°C 12:15:38: 1800/1416MHz 6.75 84% 2% 81% 0% 0% 1% 70.0°C 12:15:49: 1800/1416MHz 6.79 83% 1% 81% 0% 0% 0% 72.2°C 12:16:02: 1800/1416MHz 6.98 89% 2% 86% 0% 0% 1% 71.7°C 12:16:14: 1800/1416MHz 6.73 84% 1% 82% 0% 0% 0% 70.6°C 12:16:24: 1800/1416MHz 6.85 97% 3% 92% 0% 0% 1% 71.1°C 12:16:34: 1800/1416MHz 6.88 92% 0% 90% 0% 0% 0% 72.2°C 12:16:44: 1800/1416MHz 6.61 80% 3% 76% 0% 0% 1% 70.0°C 12:16:55: 1800/1416MHz 6.82 99% 2% 95% 0% 0% 1% 69.4°C 12:17:06: 1800/1416MHz 7.07 90% 2% 86% 0% 0% 1% 72.2°C Jammy 6.0.5 has no hdmi output.

@balbes150 I'm finishing my research on the OPi800. I wanted to let you know my findings before I make the video. The best image I tried was Armbian_22.11.0-trunk_Orangepi-800_jammy_current_5.19.16_xfce_desktop.img5.19 Jammy There I did have an issue with hdmi audio not always working. After a reboot it most of the times is back. Also I couldn't get 5Ghz wifi working while 2.4Ghz wifi is working well. This was the error in dmesg [ 230.032015] unisoc_wifi unisoc_wifi wlan0: sprdwl_report_connection Scarlet-Dekerf 5Ghz failed status code:1! [ 234.585036] unisoc_wifi unisoc_wifi wlan0: sprdwl_report_connection Scarlet-Dekerf 5Ghz failed status code:1! [ 239.501298] unisoc_wifi unisoc_wifi wlan0: sprdwl_report_connection Scarlet-Dekerf 5Ghz failed status code:1! [ 244.921950] unisoc_wifi unisoc_wifi wlan0: sprdwl_report_connection Scarlet-Dekerf 5Ghz failed status code:1! [ 262.054026] unisoc_wifi unisoc_wifi wlan0: sprdwl_report_connection Scarlet-Dekerf 5Ghz failed status code:1! With Armbian_22.11.0-trunk_Orangepi-800_sid_current_5.18.5_xfce_desktop.img There is no on-board wifi. I also noticed my 5Ghz wifi dongle drivers aren't installed or working. Works on other armbian devices. It's a realtek 802.11ac So I again was stuck in 2.4Ghz wifi mode. But then a very old dongle that performs a lot worse than OPi800 2.4Ghz wifi. I tested the VGA port on this image. VGA does work, dual display works. But there's a problem with the VGA color. It's all yellow. I don't think it's my display, but I haven't used it in a while, so possible. I still have to test images with kernel 6.0 Here my gathered info until now. OPi800 ------ Benchmarks ---------- Board | OS | Kernel | Clockspeeds | 7z b all cores | 7z b core small core | 7z b big core | NicoD Blender | Supertuxkart | Memcpy | Memset | SBC-Bench OPi800 OrangeOS arch xfce4 5.18.5 1.4Ghz A53/1.8Ghz A72 7475 1283 (core 0) 1906 (core 5) xxx 7fps OPi800 Armbian Jammy xfce4 5.19.16 1.4Ghz A53/1.8Ghz A72 7686 1241 (core 0) 1841 (core 5) 10m11s 7fps http://ix.io/4eiS OPi800 Armbian Sid xfce4 5.18.5 1.4Ghz A53/1.8Ghz A72 7740 1253 (core 0) 1844 (core 5) xxx 7fps File transfer rates ------------------- | eMMC read | eMMC write | eMMC access time | sd-read | sd-write | USB3 read | USB3 write | USB-C read | USBC-C write OPi800 244.3 MB/s 165.4 MB/s 0.22 msec 68.4 MB/s 35 MB/s 426.5 MB/s 150.2 MB/s Temperatures ------------ idle 42C maxed out 83C Power consumption ----------------- idle 0.55A @ 5.25V Maxed out 1.55A @ 5.2V Issue's ------- Armbian Jammy 5.19 HDMI-audio doesn't always work / No VGA / Problem with 5Ghz wifi(maybe a router problem, don't have it with other devices and rebooted router) 2.4 works well [ 230.032015] unisoc_wifi unisoc_wifi wlan0: sprdwl_report_connection Scarlet-Dekerf 5Ghz failed status code:1! [ 234.585036] unisoc_wifi unisoc_wifi wlan0: sprdwl_report_connection Scarlet-Dekerf 5Ghz failed status code:1! [ 239.501298] unisoc_wifi unisoc_wifi wlan0: sprdwl_report_connection Scarlet-Dekerf 5Ghz failed status code:1! [ 244.921950] unisoc_wifi unisoc_wifi wlan0: sprdwl_report_connection Scarlet-Dekerf 5Ghz failed status code:1! [ 262.054026] unisoc_wifi unisoc_wifi wlan0: sprdwl_report_connection Scarlet-Dekerf 5Ghz failed status code:1! Armbian Sid 5.18 on-board wifi/bt / Missing 5Ghz usb dongle drivers Thank you for the great work. It is a nice experience with Jammy 5.19. I installed box64, box86, wine, PPSSPP and tons of games. Runs well for an RK3399. I like that they choose a VGA port instead of dual HDMI. I hope it can be fixed in the future. Cheers.

I added a function to build PPSSPP. Should work on all Armbian versions with GPU drivers. https://github.com/NicoD-SBC/armbian-gaming These are the build steps used in the script to build PPSSPP for Ubuntu / Debian Linux. git clone --recurse-submodules https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp.git cd ppsspp git pull --rebase https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp.git git submodule update --init --recursive sudo apt -y install build-essential cmake libgl1-mesa-dev libsdl2-dev libvulkan-dev /bin/bash ./b.sh cd build make sudo make install Run it with "PPSSPPSDL" (case sensitive)

@F3x Power consumption radxa zero wifi on + cpu idle : 0.3A wifi on + cpu maxed out : 0.6A OPi800(RK3399 idle 0.55A @ 5.25V Maxed out 1.55A @ 5.2V Khadas Edge2(RK3588S) Idle 12V 0.18A 2.16W Maxed out 12V 0.65A 7.8W Banana Pi M5 (S905x3) hdmi + wifi + keyboard - Idle 0.45A (0.08A for wifi) hdmi + wifi + keyboard - maxed out 0.75A no hdmi no wifi no keyboard - idle 0.2A no hdmi no wifi no keyboard - maxed out 0.63A RPi400 No wifi/on-board sd-card reader idle 0.45A Wifi-on-board sd-card reader idle 2Ghz ov 6 0.5A Wifi-on-board sd-card reader maxed out 2Ghz ov 6 1.3A Wifi-USB3SD idle 2Ghz ov 6 0.75A-0.9A Wifi-USB3SD idle 1.8Ghz 0.75A-0.9A Wifi-on-board sd-card reader idle 1.8Ghz 0.5A Wifi-on-board sd-card reader maxed out 1.8Ghz 1.1A Wifi-USB3SD maxed out 1.8Ghz 1.3A Khadas VIM4 (A311D2) Idle 3W Maxed out 7.5W (with fan) If you want any more. See my review videos. https://www.youtube.com/c/NicoDsSBCs/videos

@balbes150Thank you for the info. One more thing, I don't see OC overlays. Is this possible with your images? It does run very cool. So there's headroom. Cheers.

@balbes150Hi, I hope you're doing well. I'm gathering info for OPi800 review. I had not used RK3399 in a long time for desktop. I moved to N2+ instead. My question. How is it now with the media kernel? Is everything now integrated for that in all your rk3399 images/media-kernel? Or do I still need a debian image to install the media packages? I'm a bit confused. Video playback looks good, but I haven't tried any 4k files. Youtube playback ain't perfect. I remember this being better with the media script. Otherwise the images are pretty good. I tried the 6.0.3. There only on-board wifi wasn't working. The 5.19.6 works great. But haven't gone deep yet. Thank you for the good work. Cheers.