krrmbn

Moved to Community Maintained Allwinner.
 
@krrmbn Note that this is not an Armbian supported board.  It is community maintained.

@krrmbnWere these boards using a fresh image or were they upgraded from some previous version? if they were upgraded, check if /etc/modules list a module like sprdwl_ng. If yes remove the same. Then enable aw859a-wifi.service service for wifi support. Now reboot and your problem should be resolved.

Wow, load is so much lower on all of the boards now. Previously under normal circumstances, load: 1.0. Pre-crash circumstances, load: 4.0 or 5.0. Now after removing sprdwl_ng from /etc/modules, load: 0.01. Thank you so much!

We have two major changes at PR stage that needs to be merged and fully tested. Alongside with fixes on HW side. Then whole system stabilisation has to begun ... How you can help?
 
Providing status of any board labelled as supported, that is not covered with our automated testings, helps:
https://github.com/armbian/os#latest-smoke-tests-results
This testing is primitive, so manual checking also helps.
 
If there is a bug, open a ticket:
https://www.armbian.com/participate/
If you can, fix it, sent a PR. Few people that contribute to Armbian anyway can't fix all bugs found in open source software.

Maturity of user-land packages. At one point in time Ubuntu LTS is better then Debian stable and vice versa. I think this principle is now not working as intended (randomly could be O.K.) as we recently changed how download lists are generated. Here you can observe how this is assembled. There is some additional info in wiki.
 
Keep in mind that packages lists are more or less the same and (hopefully) all Canonical suspicious code is cleaned out.
 

Can't tell from my head. That would require analysis / diff.
 
 
Only diff is userspace packages versions. HW interface is identical.
 
 
I am afraid that you can't do that just like that and IIRC you the first person coming up with such idea. Upgrades within Debian or Ubuntu are already complicated enough and prone on breaking. Also this problem exceeds Armbian as user-land packages are stock Debian / Ubuntu.
 
 
This is an attempt to send you a message. It tells that "Debian" or "Ubuntu" fairly tales and stereotypes, that are attached to those keywords, means nothing in this close-to embedded Linux world. Check FAQ for more https://docs.armbian.com/#what-is-armbian

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
 
I have many years of macos / darwin & macports experience - but recently have migrated servers to openbsd and armbian / ubuntu. I haven't actually installed linux since MKLinux and Yellow Dog Linux on PowerPC… so it has been a while now. Since I wasn't using it, I wasn't really following linux development and evolution.
 
Sounds like since I'm headless and only using the CLI, it doesn't matter if I have Armbian 23.8 Bookworm Minimal CLI or Armbian 23.8 Jammy Minimal CLI. I guess in this case - since Jammy is smaller, so much the better. And since I already have Jammy installed, there is no reason to migrate to Bookworm.
 
Thanks again to you and team Armbian. I am very glad to have found you and your great software.