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I have a really slow internet connection and I'm doing alot of re-building Armbian and target systems etc. I have a copy of apt-cacher running on a local machine, I know how to configure it on target machines but I'm not sure how I would point the Armbian build system at it? 

 

At a guess I'm thinking that I probably need to modify debootstrap to create /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/90-apt-proxy.conf but wondered if anyone had any better ideas?

 

 

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Thanks Zador I'll look at that tonight, I'm guessing that debootstrap-ng installs a local apt-cacher-ng then? Or does it look for one on the network?

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I'm not sure if it needs to be changed or not for the moment, possibly yes as it would be great if the target boards could talk to the same server. 

But for the moment I wouldn't worry as I'm just experimenting. I've not used debootstrap-ng before so it will be interesting to play with it.

 

Are you planning on deprecating debootstrap in favour of debootstrap-ng in the future or will you be keeping both around?

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I'm not sure if it needs to be changed or not for the moment, possibly yes as it would be great if the target boards could talk to the same server. 

Since it's recommended to run build system in virtual machine, I don't think that setting apt-cacher address on target systems in build process is a good idea. It's easy enough to set this up manually afterwards.

 

Are you planning on deprecating debootstrap in favour of debootstrap-ng in the future or will you be keeping both around?

Only thing that prevents switching to ng variant by default is lack of testing and feedback. There may be problems with some boards that have unusual u-boot configuration, or with NAND/USB/SATA install script. Otherwise new process is fast and has some cool features, like FEL boot support and building images with btrfs or f2fs root filesystem.

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 Since it's recommended to run build system in virtual machine, I don't think that setting apt-cacher address on target systems in build process is a good idea. It's easy enough to set this up manually afterwards.

At the moment I have a Netgear NAS drive which is powered up 24/7 it's name is nas-1.local and it is running apt-cacher (could be upgraded to apt-cacher-ng if needed). 

Ultimately it would be great if both the build system (which I do run in a VM) and the physical boards, OPi, Banana Pi etc. look at nas-1.local for packages.

But this is for the future it may be that the physical boards look at the NAS drive and the build system maintains it's own private cache. That wouldn't be the worst situation in the world.

 

 

 

Only thing that prevents switching to ng variant by default is lack of testing and feedback. There may be problems with some boards that have unusual u-boot configuration, or with NAND/USB/SATA install script. Otherwise new process is fast and has some cool features, like FEL boot support and building images with btrfs or f2fs root filesystem.

 

Ah you should have said ;-) 

 

I have an OPi PC, Banana Pi M1+ and a Banana Pi M2 that I can test on when I get 5 minutes :-)

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At the moment I have a Netgear NAS drive which is powered up 24/7 it's name is nas-1.local and it is running apt-cacher (could be upgraded to apt-cacher-ng if needed). 

Ultimately it would be great if both the build system (which I do run in a VM) and the physical boards, OPi, Banana Pi etc. look at nas-1.local for packages.

But this is for the future it may be that the physical boards look at the NAS drive and the build system maintains it's own private cache. That wouldn't be the worst situation in the world.

Maybe you are interested in running one of your boards with root filesystem on NAS (shared via NFS)?  :) It was added recently (though it needs some manual configuration after building).

 

Also it's easy to override apt-cacher address at build time, but I still think that setting apt-cacher address inside Armbian images should be at least separate, or better to let users do it manually if they want (automating creation of one file is not worth it IMHO).

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Maybe you are interested in running one of your boards with root filesystem on NAS (shared via NFS)?  :) It was added recently (though it needs some manual configuration after building).

I'm certainly interested in testing that as from what I have read it would speed up my testing hugely and also help with production programming as the board will be able to be booted VIA FEL and write it's own SD card .

 

That said, baby steps, I'll try bootstrap-ng tonight and then I'll probably be back asking for help with FEL boot and NFS ;-)

 

 

Also it's easy to override apt-cacher address at build time, but I still think that setting apt-cacher address inside Armbian images should be at least separate, or better to let users do it manually if they want (automating creation of one file is not worth it IMHO).

The override to force the build to system to use the NAS drive would be great, I can then setup the Armbian image using customize-image as required.

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The override to force the build to system to use the NAS drive would be great, I can then setup the Armbian image using customize-image as required.

Done. New option APT_PROXY_ADDR (should be set to hostname:port or ip:port). May work with apt-cacher, should work with apt-cacher-ng.

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Done. New option APT_PROXY_ADDR (should be set to hostname:port or ip:port). May work with apt-cacher, should work with apt-cacher-ng.

Thank you very much zador.blood.stained, I'm in the process of trying bootstrap-ng atm (just about to boot it) to I'll test the new proxy address option in a minute or two.

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Hi zador.blood.stained,

Your new APT_PROXY_ADDR option appears to work well with apt-cache running on my NAS drive. It might be worth mentioning in the documentation that :3142 is needed as well though, as the first time I tried I just provided the URL without the port. Funnily enough it failed haha. Second time around with the addition of the port and it appears to be running as it should.

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There is no documentation for this option yet  :)

but I did mention that port should be specified too

 

So you did haha, I really should start paying more attention  :)

 

Sadly the build failed  :(

 

 

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I: Retrieving sysv-rc 2.88dsf-59
I: Validating sysv-rc 2.88dsf-59
I: Retrieving sysvinit-utils 2.88dsf-59
I: Validating sysvinit-utils 2.88dsf-59
I: Retrieving tar 1.27.1-2+b1
I: Validating tar 1.27.1-2+b1
I: Retrieving tasksel 3.31+deb8u1
I: Validating tasksel 3.31+deb8u1
I: Retrieving tasksel-data 3.31+deb8u1
I: Validating tasksel-data 3.31+deb8u1
I: Retrieving traceroute 1%3a2.0.20-2+b1
I: Validating traceroute 1%3a2.0.20-2+b1
I: Retrieving tzdata 2015g-0+deb8u1
I: Validating tzdata 2015g-0+deb8u1
I: Retrieving libustr-1.0-1 1.0.4-3+b2
I: Validating libustr-1.0-1 1.0.4-3+b2
I: Retrieving bsdutils 1%3a2.25.2-6
I: Validating bsdutils 1%3a2.25.2-6
I: Retrieving libblkid1 2.25.2-6
I: Validating libblkid1 2.25.2-6
I: Retrieving libmount1 2.25.2-6
I: Validating libmount1 2.25.2-6
I: Retrieving libsmartcols1 2.25.2-6
I: Validating libsmartcols1 2.25.2-6
I: Retrieving libuuid1 2.25.2-6
I: Validating libuuid1 2.25.2-6
I: Retrieving mount 2.25.2-6
I: Validating mount 2.25.2-6
I: Retrieving util-linux 2.25.2-6
I: Validating util-linux 2.25.2-6
I: Retrieving vim-common 2%3a7.4.488-7
I: Validating vim-common 2%3a7.4.488-7
I: Retrieving vim-tiny 2%3a7.4.488-7
I: Validating vim-tiny 2%3a7.4.488-7
I: Retrieving wget 1.16-1
I: Validating wget 1.16-1
I: Retrieving liblzma5 5.1.1alpha+20120614-2+b3
I: Validating liblzma5 5.1.1alpha+20120614-2+b3
I: Retrieving zlib1g 1%3a1.2.8.dfsg-2+b1
I: Validating zlib1g 1%3a1.2.8.dfsg-2+b1
E: Couldn't download packages: netbase
[ error ] ERROR in function create_rootfs_cache [ debootstrap-ng.sh:164 ]
[ error ] Debootstrap base system first stage failed 
[ o.k. ] Process terminated 
[ error ] ERROR in function unmount_on_exit [ debootstrap-ng.sh:526 ]
[ error ] debootstrap-ng was interrupted 
[ o.k. ] Process terminated 

 

 

Possibly my fault? Or maybe because the NAS drive is running apt-cache and not apt-cache-ng? I'll try it again incase it was just a glitch

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According to the access log for apt-cache netbase is reported as a hit

 

There is the following in apt-cachers error log:

Thu Mar 10 22:44:11 2016|192.168.1.79|--- /usr/sbin/apt-cacher: Usage error
Thu Mar 10 22:54:40 2016|info [13443]: Got another status line. Redirected?: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:54:40 GMT
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 13:19:39 GMT
ETag: "242fc-52a00301b10c0"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 148220

Thu Mar 10 22:54:41 2016|info [13448]: Got another status line. Redirected?: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:54:41 GMT
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 13:31:23 GMT
ETag: "945-52a005a1140c0"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 2373

However I have no idea what it means or if it is relevant? 

 

 

Edit: I've just tried browsing : http://nas-1.local:3142/httpredir.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/netbase/netbase_5.3_all.debwith chrome and it happily downloaded the file. The file was also parsed by the package manager so it doesn't appear to be corrupt.

 

Edit 2: I've just upgraded apt-cacher on the NAS to apt-cacher-ng and things are now even worse...

[ o.k. ] Using custom apt-cacher-ng address [ nas-1.local:3142 ]
[ o.k. ] Installing base system [ Stage 1/2 ]
I: Retrieving Release 
I: Retrieving Release.gpg 
E: Failed getting release signature file http://nas-1.local:3142/httpredir.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/Release.gpg
[ error ] ERROR in function create_rootfs_cache [ debootstrap-ng.sh:164 ]
[ error ] Debootstrap base system first stage failed 
[ o.k. ] Process terminated 
[ error ] ERROR in function unmount_on_exit [ debootstrap-ng.sh:526 ]
[ error ] debootstrap-ng was interrupted 
[ o.k. ] Process terminated 

Again, I've tried downloading Release.gpg via chrome and all was fine.

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FIrst installation log suggests that netbase was downloaded, but didn't pass signature validation. Maybe you were unlucky with mirror selected by httpredir.debian.org, sometimes there are partially broken mirrors.

 

With apt-cacher-ng - maybe it's an old version or something else, try checking it's web ui for error reports or switch back to standard apt-cacher.

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I couldn't get apt-cacher-ng to work, however I reinstalled apt-cacher on the NAS drive and deleted all of it's cached *.deb files. This time Armbian downloaded everything and built just fine.

 

Thank you very much for your help and patience. I'll go back to looking at the SD card now.

 

One day I might even get around to testing NFS boot ;-)

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Hi zador.blood.stained,

Do you have a link to the NFS boot documentation by any chance? I saw the link to the commit logs, but nothing really that pointed me in the write direction.

 

If there is something written down then I'll happily test it tonight.

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