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Fizzbane

H3 OpiZ+ base packages missing bionic

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I wanna start out and say I have been using Armbian for a year and it's been great. Thank you.

 

I have built many images over the year and have only noticed the issue recently.

 

I have noticed in the bionic builds for OpiZ+ that some base level packages are missing. The one I noticed was netplan. This is the new standard for bionic. I have not compiled a complete list of missing packages at this time.

 

I had built this image before around 5.0-5.1 kernel release without issue. Netplan was included. Current build at 5.3 RC does not include this package. I suspect that others may be removed.

 

Are these packages missing intentionally for a bionic build?

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51 minutes ago, Fizzbane said:

Are these packages missing intentionally for a bionic build?


Yes. Our primary network manager is Network manager with old classic ifupdown as backup.

 

You can install and use Netplan if you wish.

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I was under the impression netplan and network manager could be used in conjunction, that's the design of netplan. I believe that bionic also uses network manager by default as well but netplan is included as it generates the appropriate config files. It also hands these off during the boot process to the network renderer, either network manager or networkd.

 

https://netplan.io/

 

Do you know when this was removed from the builds? Possibly a commit number? I will likely fork and continue building bionic with the standard package list.

 

I'm also curious if any other base bionic packages were removed from Armbian bionic.

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1 hour ago, Fizzbane said:

I was under the impression netplan and network manager could be used in conjunction, that's the design of netplan.


I am aware what Netplan brings but it also adds confusion and raises support costs. Armbian is maintained by a group of few people in their free time. We are not a billion dollar corporation. We can't maintain nor support so many network managers. We have the same setup on images that smell on Debian and those that smells like Ubuntu. Regardless of their sub releases/age.

For old school type people ifupdown rules the world. Even Network manager is totally unnecessary ... 

 

1 hour ago, Fizzbane said:

Do you know when this was removed from the builds? Possibly a commit number? I will likely fork and continue building bionic with the standard package list.

 

No. And its not that simple. Build system is changing all the time - kernel sources and packages are outside, yes , but (essential) bug fixing is not.

 

"standard package list" was never identical to Bionic. Or Debian ... never. Package relations and their versions are important to be the same. If you need netplan while building images -> https://docs.armbian.com/Developer-Guide_User-Configurations/#user-provided-image-customization-script

 

You can implement this back with another build script switch if you like. If done properly, it will be merged.

 

 

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