SteeMan

I was thinking of asking the same question.
 
Personally my feeling is if you are planning on helping Armbian by working to incorporate your efforts back into Armbian then I strongly encourage your efforts.  But I would recommend working with the Armbian developers on how you plan to do this, as it can be frustrating for you if you put in a lot of work into something, only to find disagreement from the Armbian community about how you are implementing something that might prevent it from being accepted.
 
If your intention isn't to incorporate your work back into Armbian, then you are creating just another fork (like the many that already exist), which you are entitled to do since this is open source.  But in that case I would request that you not use the limited Armbian resources to do that (i.e. our developers and infrastructure like these forums).  These forums are for Armbian developers and users, not for use by forks of Armbian that just attempt to take from Armbian without contributing back.

I was thinking of asking the same question.
 
Personally my feeling is if you are planning on helping Armbian by working to incorporate your efforts back into Armbian then I strongly encourage your efforts.  But I would recommend working with the Armbian developers on how you plan to do this, as it can be frustrating for you if you put in a lot of work into something, only to find disagreement from the Armbian community about how you are implementing something that might prevent it from being accepted.
 
If your intention isn't to incorporate your work back into Armbian, then you are creating just another fork (like the many that already exist), which you are entitled to do since this is open source.  But in that case I would request that you not use the limited Armbian resources to do that (i.e. our developers and infrastructure like these forums).  These forums are for Armbian developers and users, not for use by forks of Armbian that just attempt to take from Armbian without contributing back.

@Pita Bread Instead of using nearly two year old images, it probably would be best to start with the most recent images: https://www.armbian.com/amlogic-s9xx-tv-box

Yes, that added cost goes to paying people to provide the software support that users want and need.  Instead people demand software support from other people for free and get upset with Armbian and others when things don't work the way they want them too.  Nothing comes for free.

Yes, that added cost goes to paying people to provide the software support that users want and need.  Instead people demand software support from other people for free and get upset with Armbian and others when things don't work the way they want them too.  Nothing comes for free.

Note that this thread is archived.  Current information can be found at:
https://forum.armbian.com/topic/33676-installation-instructions-for-tv-boxes-with-amlogic-cpus
 

Ubuntu only started supporting jammy to noble upgrades with the .1 release that come out not that long ago.  So the upgrade to noble has only been available for a short time.
But in general, Armbian doesn't test distribution upgrades.  So Armbian will never recommend you do such an upgrade as it isn't supported.
However, if you know what you are doing you should be able to upgrade from jammy to noble.  I've done a couple of my own boxes and they have generally gone smoothly.

In the meantime I integrated the driver into armbian for rockchip64 targets: https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/7338 , so it will be a bit easier to test it out-of-the box and it would also be easier for amlogic people to copy-paste the driver patch and integrate the device trees as well.
 
My tests on hk1 rk3318 tv box (board silkscreen YX_RK3318) worked like a charm and the display is now pleasantly showing up-to-date date and time
 

The minimal builds are really minimal.  They don't include armbian config by default.  You need to apt install armbian-config if you want it.

So yes the emmc isn't detected (there is no mmcblk1).  Are you sure you have emmc on the box?  (I have for example some TX3 boxes that have old style nand instead of emmc and mainline linux doesn't support nand.  TV Box manufacturers will cut costs in anyway possible and nand is cheaper than emmc)  You would need open the box and inspect what physical chips are installed.
 
Since I don't have your box, there is little I can do to debug this.  Have you looked at the full log of the boot process to look for any indication of issues reported during the boot?  (You would need to find the debug serial console pins on the mother board and hook up a usb serial reader to capture the boot messages)  (some of this information goes to HDMI, but some gets output before HDMI is initialized).
 

@Ian Coelho How about some basic information first.  What build are you running?  What dtb are you using?  What dtbs have you tried?  How are you attempting to install to emmc?

The default is 'root' and '1234'

Board is not a supported Armbian SBC, moved to the Community Maintained forum section and reset the board tag to reflect the correct board.

Board is not a supported Armbian SBC, moved to the Community Maintained forum section and reset the board tag to reflect the correct board.

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You would want to add: BUILD_MINIMAL=yes (the default is the non-minimal server build)

The instructions on above (under DIY) should be clearer to explain that.  When I looked at this earlier, I was guessing that is what the instructions assumed you needed to do (download that referenced file).
 
Edited the above instructions to clarify.

The instructions on above (under DIY) should be clearer to explain that.  When I looked at this earlier, I was guessing that is what the instructions assumed you needed to do (download that referenced file).
 
Edited the above instructions to clarify.

I deleted your other post as it is just a duplicate of this.  Please take the time to research.  There is a topic in the fourms for your type of box.  That is where your should be posting, and before you post you should read what has already been posted to see if others have already run into what you are seeing.  Don't waste other peoples time until you have used the resources available to you.
 

User space upgrades are not supported nor tested.  However I've upgraded recently a number of boxes from Focal to Jammy.  So generally they do work.  You are just using the standard Ubuntu upgrade mechanisms to do this (i.e do-release-upgrade).  But note that Ubuntu doesn't support the upgrade from Jammy to Noble yet itself.  That support comes with 24.04.1 to be released this summer.  I'm waiting for that to do my own upgrades to Noble.

Upgrade to what newer version?  A userspace version (i.e. ubuntu focal to ubuntu jammy) or a kernel upgrade (i.e. 23.02 based armbian kernel to 23.05 armbian kernel)?
For userspace it is recommeded to do an install, as upgrades are not tested (but I just did a focal to jammy upgrade last night and they generally do work).
For the kernel, you can just do apt update/upgrades to continue following the builds over time (assuming you don't have your kernel frozen in armbian-config).

Your extlinux.conf file is wrong.  The "fdt" line is separate from the fdtdir line.  You don't touch the fdtdir line and need to add the fdt line.
 
 

Moved to the correct forum.  Armbian does not support the Rock64.  It is Community Maintained, moved to the Community Maintained forums and added the correct board tag.

I was reacting to this comment.  No Armbian devs are going to look at this issue because it is reported on an unsupported board.  I was just explaining how the various support models work.  While it may or may not be a generic issue, the fact is that it is reported on an unsupported board.  With very limited resources the volunteer devs can't look into most things that are reported.  Thus I was encouraging you to contribute your time to submit a fix.  You did provide a workaround, but indicate here that you are looking for an underlying fix.  I'm just here saying that unless someone in the community steps up that isn't likely to happen.

Welcome to the world of Armbian on TV Boxes!
 
TV Boxes are not officially supported by the Armbian project.  This "TV Box" sub forum is for users interested in experimenting with Armbian on TV Boxes.
 
Overall you will be best served if you set your expectations low as to what you might be able to accomplish with your TV Box and Armbian.  Specifically you should think of your TV Box as a potential linux server - *not* as a desktop replacement.
 
Feel free to post and ask questions in the TV Box forums if you are interested.  But realize this is a peer-to-peer forum so you may or may not get an answer.  Don't expect or demand support as there are only a handful of people that participate in these forums and they are all donating their time.
 
Search is your friend.  There is a lot of historic information stored on this site.  Your question has likely already been asked previously.  However, a lot has changed over time and therefore be prepared for a lot of the information you find by searching the forums to be outdated and in some cases just plain wrong.  Even though that may be the case, please search the forums first before posting a question.  It shows you are willing to invest the time to do your part and makes those of us who volunteer our time to answering questions more likely to want to help you.
 
 
Amlogic (S9xx) based TV Boxes
1. There is a community build for Amlogic based s9xx TV Boxes - The key being community - so please contribute to make improvements
2. A single developer (@balbes150) had worked years on getting things to the state they are.
3. As of October 14th, 2020 balbes150 removed support for Amlogic CPUs, so that is the last active build from him
4. Expectations should be set low (i.e. don't expect anything to work) but if you do get the box to boot, get HDMI and wired ethernet to work, you are doing good.
5. You really shouldn't expect things like Wi-Fi, bluetooth, remote control, etc. to work.
6. There is a very small number of people on this forum/club that are able to provide any guidance.
7. Most likely no one on this forum owns your specific box and therefore generally can only provide vague guideance.
8. If you get this working on your box, it will likely only be useful for server type tasks, maybe a little light graphical desktop usage, but do not expect video playback, etc.
 
RockChip (rk3399, rk3328, rk3288, rk3228, etc) based TV Boxes
These are probably the best supported TV boxes currently.  They have the most active developers.  Feel free to post in the Rockchip TV Box sub forums your questions.
 
Allwinner (H6, H616, H313) based TV Boxes
There is no ongoing effort to support Allwinner based boxes.  Occasionally a developer will respond to a question, but in general if this is what you have, you will be expected to do a lot of work on your own, so you better be comfortable doing development for these type of boards.  You aren't likely to find anything that you can just install and have work.
 
Other Comments
The official recommendation from the Armbian project would be to not use TV Boxes and use officially supported SBCs. Taking this approach will likely result in an easier time, less hassle, better support and likely a more fully functioning device.
 
There are reasons you may choose to want to use unsupported Armbian on TV boxes, for example here are some of my ( @SteeMan ) reasons:
 
1) It is a challenge and therefore a learning opportunity.  I would never have learnt to build my own linux kernels from source if I was still exclusively using x86 hardware.  If you want a challenge you will find it here.
 
2) Price vs specs.  The Android TV boxes are built to be cheap consumer devices.  They are produced in larger quantities which drives down the per unit price.  You will generally not be able to get the same level of hardware for the same price with a standard SBC.  But that cheapness comes with - no support by the manufacturers and potentially sub-standard components.  If the manufacturers goal is to sell the lowest price box they are likely cutting corners somewhere to make that happen.
 
3) emmc is standard.  TV boxes always come with internal storage while most SBCs do not.  Again from a price/performance standpoint having internal emmc storage vs running off an SD card is a plus.  emmc storage *should* be faster and more durable than storage on an sd card.  The caveats here being that this is one of the areas that the manufacturers may cut corners.  For example I have two TX3 mini boxes that are supposed to have 16GB of emmc memory (like the other TX3 mini boxes I have), but they were instead manufactured with cheaper nand memory for which there is no mainline kernel support.  There is no visible difference between the identically packaged boxes that had emmc vs those that came with nand, other than opening the case and looking at the physical chips on the boards.
 
4) cases come standard.  TV boxes always come with cases, whereas for SBCs that is an extra cost.  For my uses having a case is a big improvement vs not having one.  A downside if that these cases are not necessarily well designed to provide adequate cooling.  So depending on your use case, overheating might be a problem.
 
5) While I own both SBCs and TV boxes, I personally find the TV boxes work best for my needs (running server based software) and I enjoy the challenge of getting them running and keeping them running with the great underlying work that the Armbian project is doing to build on top of.
 
If you have the correct expectations (set your expectations low) are looking to learn and are up for a challenge these are fun things to work with.  And I look forward to working with you on these forums.