milkaca Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Hi, first of all thank you for the great work. Let me tell you my story. I bought a Pinebook laptop some months ago and in my spare time I was playing with numerous OS-es. Installing and testing one by one. In total I've tested every single OS and so far Armbian is the winner. Why? Well because it is super fast, very stable, lightweight and with very simple xfce desktop look and feel. Now, like everything in life, there are some bad sides of Armbian. I am not sure if I will say something false or strange but I don't consider my self expert for hardware nor Linux world. So far I have also Raspberry Pi with Raspbian installed and don't see any bad sides. So, to get to the topic. Problem that I see is Ubuntu and architecture. Armbian is build on Ubuntu version 16.04 together on Pinebook with arm64 architecture. What is very limitation in terms of packages. Almost every single package that I would like to install eather doesn't exist because of the arm64 architecture (on ppa repositories) or doesn't exist at all. Of course I can install some old and outdated package, but for an example who would like to have Kodi version 15 installed, knowing that currently Kodi developers developers are developing version 18. Alternative to missing latest packages would be to compile nad build from the source, but then I loose having abiliti to update packages by simple apt-get upgrade command. The only package which I compiled was xrdp because I was hopping to have abiliti to connect remotely to my Pinebook with my Android phone or from Windows 10 laptop but with version 0.9.1 (latest buildable version on Ubuntu 16.04) it doesn't work so I use VNC. In my brain, next logical question is comming to my mind: Can I expect latest ubuntu release for my Pinebook somewhere in the future, and when? Basically that is my biggest concern. However, thank you one more time for great work. I hope that you will continue to work in long term, so that I don't need to switch to some other OS on my Pinebook or even give my Pinebook to my kid because otherwise I don't see any good enought OS for me to be usefull in my daily life. All best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 57 minutes ago, amilino said: Armbian is build on Ubuntu version 16.04 together on Pinebook with arm64 architecture. And this is the only possible way. There is nothing you can do if people do not provide arm/arm64 binaries. KODI is not a simple to install not even on x64 Intel platform. Regarding RDP. Strange. I can connect from Windows 7 machine to all those boards without a problem. Is this a issue with Win 10? Thank you for your compliments. We will try to improve the system, but we can't do much about 3rd party software which might not provide arm packages. I also hate this fact sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zador.blood.stained Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 hours ago, amilino said: Can I expect latest ubuntu release for my Pinebook somewhere in the future, and when? Depends on what do you mean by "latest Ubuntu release". Technically you could install/update Ubuntu 16.04 to a newer release, but you will encounter issues because the kernel 3.10.x is too old to run the newest Debian/Ubuntu releases, and while you could make a build with the mainline kernel, it won't be an option if you want to use it for multimedia purposes (playing HD video, using Kodi, etc.). Regarding "when" - kernel development is not done by us (mostly) so it is outside of our control, as a result it is impossible to say "when" or even "if" there will be fixes or improvements. 2 hours ago, amilino said: I would like to install eather doesn't exist because of the arm64 architecture (on ppa repositories) or doesn't exist at all. You can install and run armhf packages on arm64 OS if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkaca Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Thank you for your feedback. Regarding xrdp on windows 10 I see green screen, enter credentials and after some time I get message that there are some problems. I think it is fixed in version 0.9.2, but that version is not buildable. You can sew issue on github: https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp/issues/246 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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