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  1. 6 minutes ago, Roman Paholík said:

    In fact, I think it should have something to do with Armbian, because I do not see this bug on regular Ubuntu on PBP either other computers I am using.

    It is possible that its only related to ARM builds. If you find up something, we can fix but perhaps we shall focus on 20.04 (Focal). It's inside the build system but chroot is / (was?) completely broken so we can't build some needed packages.

  2. 2 hours ago, count-doku said:

    Debian Stretch was not tested, as it is marked as unsupported on the download page

    We shell focus on Buster / Bionic, the rest as is, user land functions are less important ...

    We have to build up the way how to attract/build/promote community supported testings. Its quite time consuming task to test all this without any automated tooling. After we manage to secure some functionality and before we will try to fix bugs which will be found. I am sure people are eager to help, if they would know about.

  3. 21 minutes ago, Vanitarium said:

    Other interactions should take place at user and community level only. Bugs should be reported in a bugzilla environment and not in this forum,IMO.

    I have to clarify why we don't run proper public bug collection software. Linux (distribution) is a huge collection of 3rd party software and most of the reported bugs has absolutely nothing to do with our work - it is extremely hard, stupid and simply resources are not there to cover that. This is responsibility of their authors and that must be properly communicated - we are educating users all the time not to blame us if some freely available opensource package / application (which is part of the system we distribute) is not working. Free support A support that we are paying for users can come only in as is way while people expect somebody is looking into their case like when they purchase some product - its simply a matter of habit. Here, we can't do this way. We can't fix their generic problems or solve their, sometimes extremely complicated problems, nor be a middle man between them and a 3rd party software or hardware maker. Operation is simply too costly to sponsor.

    Support for Armbian should always start with the documentation, proceeded by search and if they really can't work this out ... raise a question. Hopefully to already opened topic. In ideal world :) 


    On the other hand there are just a few people that contribute on the project which creates added value which distinguish us from a generic Linux distro. We would simply drown in a list of unrelated bugs. This can only expand frustration.

    That's why this forum is more like a bug listening platform. We see where problems are and fix (critical) if possible. Once there will be several millions of EUR / year we will be able to have 10-15 full timers to cover support. Then we will open a bug collection software and cover support as pro. If we want to get there, its a long (and IHMO wrong) way.

    Bottom up. Many things exists with a reason and I will try to clarify when possible. Other regulars are doing it as well.


    Thank you for your patience.

  4. 27 minutes ago, MarekBelisko said:

    I have no idea how this works though. Is this patch then skipped or? Thanks.

    Experienced person might need some time to move from this heavily patched mainline kernel + patches to pure mainline + (more) patches which has to be properly sorted and not loose functionality ... Kernel sources must be the same, from this or another procedure, patches cleaned as much as possible and you are done. ;)

  5. 2 minutes ago, TRS-80 said:

    I did not register at ipfire so maybe they are doing something different than what I am expecting.

    Try and wait few days. You can feel someone worked on that. Perhaps that is some ready made welcome, build-in forum which I hardly believe ... but still, its nice.


    3 minutes ago, TRS-80 said:

    Plus my thought was to create a culture of welcoming people. By doing so publicly, it may catch on, become self-perpetuating (to an extent)... Which, I suppose would be good or bad depending on your viewpoint...


    If this will level up the forum culture while not making more pressure on developers and maintainers ... why not. I mean, how would we get anywhere without changing anything. Make a plan, let's discuss it - consider my suggestions as from any regular user and then put into action.


    13 minutes ago, TRS-80 said:

    Others who clearly have not read the most basic of things would still get a different sort of "greeting"...

    I am sometimes too emotional and get pissed off - you, on the other hand, can be more detach and act more politically correct in term of pure abuse from the users side. My tolerance is low to be nice and friendly when I see that ...

  6. 3 hours ago, harve186 said:

    How get I solved this issue ??


    By using Google and Nextcloud support if exists. 


    This is not specifically related to Armbian. Armbian has identical packages relation as Debian or Ubuntu. If you find a solution for them, you find solution for Armbian.

  7. 5 hours ago, Steve L said:

    sappears to have sorted out the wi-fi issue.

    As I predicted. We (they at www.kernel.org) have some general problem ... will be sorted out eventually.


    5 hours ago, Steve L said:

    hen you go to the hardware config section in armbian-config, none of the interface names are present.

    Not sure if we had overlay support with that version yet. Switching kernels is always a trade. You gain or loose something which is why we provide different branches.

  8. What about using forum messaging / email system? Register at https://www.ipfire.org/ and you will see what I mean by that. Its effective and IMO overall less disturbing.


    48 minutes ago, TRS-80 said:

    Just to try and make new people feel welcome. If we are lucky, maybe they will stick around, and eventually, contribute...


    Most of people are nice. They do deserve to be handled this way ... until we have to deal with damaging ass-hole:rolleyes:

    A lot of people are too lazy to use search ... we can improve that with proper communication and with tagging and merging.

  9. 6 hours ago, shaddow501 said:

    copies almost everything

    Its called reference design which is the way you wire the chip to the outside world. Not many options. Memory could be the same, yes, but could also be different. Same goes for other things. If the problem is related to the SoC internal functions, where most of the things happens, they share bug.


  10. 30 minutes ago, dl9sec said:

    Let me know if you need furher infos/logs...

    It's a kernel bug. Probably you see the same in the logs:

    ------------[ cut here ]------------
    [   64.877064] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 410 at include/linux/dma-fence.h:533 drm_sched_main+0x219/0x23c [gpu_sched]
    [   64.877067] Modules linked in: fuse input_leds sun4i_gpadc_iio zram snd_soc_simple_card snd_soc_simple_card_utils snd_soc_spdif_tx brcmfmac brcmutil evdev axp20x_usb_power axp20x_battery axp20x_adc lima industrialio gpu_sched sun4i_codec sun4i_ts sun4i_spdif sun4i_gpadc snd_soc_core snd_pcm_dmaengine cfg80211 snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore sunxi_cir pwm_sun4i rfkill sun4i_ss uio_pdrv_genirq uio cpufreq_dt sch_fq_codel ip_tables x_tables pinctrl_axp209 pwrseq_simple realtek
    [   64.877142] CPU: 0 PID: 410 Comm: pp Tainted: G        W         5.4.11-sunxi #
    [   64.877146] Hardware name: Allwinner sun7i (A20) Family
    [   64.877164] [<c010da8d>] (unwind_backtrace) from [<c010a0b1>] (show_stack+0x11/0x14)
    [   64.877175] [<c010a0b1>] (show_stack) from [<c09366ef>] (dump_stack+0x6f/0x7c)
    [   64.877189] [<c09366ef>] (dump_stack) from [<c011b57b>] (__warn+0xb7/0xb8)
    [   64.877201] [<c011b57b>] (__warn) from [<c011b80b>] (warn_slowpath_fmt+0x43/0x74)
    [   64.877216] [<c011b80b>] (warn_slowpath_fmt) from [<bf96fcd1>] (drm_sched_main+0x219/0x23c [gpu_sched])
    [   64.877233] [<bf96fcd1>] (drm_sched_main [gpu_sched]) from [<c0134035>] (kthread+0x109/0x10c)
    [   64.877243] [<c0134035>] (kthread) from [<c01010f9>] (ret_from_fork+0x11/0x38)
    [   64.877248] Exception stack(0xed399fb0 to 0xed399ff8)
    [   64.877255] 9fa0:                                     00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
    [   64.877264] 9fc0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
    [   64.877271] 9fe0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000013 00000000
    [   64.877309] ---[ end trace f26705536fbda605 ]---
    [   64.877536] ------------[ cut here ]------------


  11. 19 minutes ago, Werner said:

    when did you identify yourself last time with nickserv @Igor?

    Just asking as I noticed a message from JackFrost last night:

    Last time, don't recall but I did it right now.

    13:22:02 -NickServ- You are now identified for IgorPec.


    We are waiting for OP since 2017 :lol::D


    Topic for #armbian is: Un-official Armbian channel waiting to get official status.
    Topic for #armbian set by zoobab!~zoobab@195-154-118-161.rev.poneytelecom.eu (Fri May 19 09:24:15 2017)

  12. 1 hour ago, Vanitarium said:

    only looking for spam stopping moderators

    ... moderators to look from users perspective and make forum a better place for us - users of this forum. With resources that are available. You can't answer technical questions, but you can merge two questions about the same problems into one - not for past year, but perhaps for one month, most recent ones. What is the gain of this? Questions are found easier, there are less doubled ones, higher chances that they are addressed and you save time to all of us. Our general work, which you are about to support, does exactly that. It saves all of us time and effort. You don't need to fix many troubles with the system/kernel on your own before starting to use it for some project ... we do that for you/users.


    I don't expect concrete ideas for organisational changes today, nor next week. You need to be focused to "how to clean up forum" for longer time. Some forum sections are also more active than the others - they need different approach. Organise your work & write it down to rule out as much confusion as possible. Which you already started https://forum.armbian.com/topic/12757-moderator-resources-tips-qa-etc/ ? (probably there those few posts shell also be moved)