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Difference between Armbian 24.5.0 6.1.xx vendor and 24.5.0 6.9.xx edge ???


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It seems like the Radxa Rock5B has been downgraded from standard support to community support for the image downloads but not (yet) for the forum.

 

Are the vendor images for the RK3588 and the 6.8.x images the same except for the kernel?

(Can I expect to just replace the kernel to switch from the vendor image to the edge image.)

Posted
6 hours ago, specs said:

Are the vendor images for the RK3588 and the 6.8.x images the same except for the kernel?

Yes. Both kernels vendor and edge have pros and cons.

Usually switching is possible via armbian-config.

Posted

Conclusion:

the only kernels you can switch between with armbian-config are the 5.10 legacy and the 6.1 vendor kernels with the current setup.

 

You did mention "Usually", but basically I guess the "armbian-config" and "exchanging kernels" route only is only recommended with "standard support".

There is much which can go wrong and I did end up reinstalling (starting from SD is no guarantee your NVME is not ending screwed up). 

 

Posted (edited)

@specs A current 6.9.0 edge kernel (collabora version) is availale on beta.armbian.com (linux-dtb and linux-headers are available too). 

They can be downloaded to the filesystem using 'wget <URL>' and installed via 'dpkg -i linux*' (without armbian-config). After updating Armbian 24.2.1 (minimal) from linux 5.10.160 to 6.9.0:

(system on emmc, data on a 4TB sata ssd (m.2))

 

 ____            _      ____  ____  
|  _ \ ___   ___| | __ | ___|| __ ) 
| |_) / _ \ / __| |/ / |___ \|  _ \ 
|  _ < (_) | (__|   <   ___) | |_) |
|_| \_\___/ \___|_|\_\ |____/|____/ 
                                    
Welcome to Armbian 24.2.1 Bookworm with Linux 6.9.0-collabora-rockchip-rk3588

No end-user support: community creations

System load:   1%           	Up time:       27 min	
Memory usage:  3% of 7.35G  	IP:	       192.168.xx.31
CPU temp:      45°C           	Usage of /:    33% of 14G  

 

I tried a network performance benchmark and it rocks: 2x 2.34 Gbits/s (bidirectional) !

(armbian-hardware-optimize disabled)

 

# ./iperf3 -c 192.168.xx.31 -p 5201  (client -> rock 5b)      
Connecting to host 192.168.xx.31, port 5201
[  5] local 192.168.xx.54 port 63943 connected to 192.168.xx.31 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  5]   0.00-1.01   sec   284 MBytes  2.37 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   1.01-2.00   sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   2.00-3.00   sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   3.00-4.00   sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   4.00-5.00   sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   5.00-6.01   sec   282 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   6.01-7.00   sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   7.00-8.00   sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   8.00-9.00   sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   9.00-10.00  sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  2.74 GBytes  2.36 Gbits/sec                  sender
[  5]   0.00-10.01  sec  2.74 GBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  receiver

# ./iperf3 -c 192.168.xx.31 -p 5201 -R (rock 5b -> client) 
Connecting to host 192.168.xx.31, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.xx.31 is sending
[  5] local 192.168.xx.54 port 63945 connected to 192.168.xx.31 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  5]   0.00-1.01   sec   279 MBytes  2.33 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   1.01-2.01   sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   2.01-3.01   sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   3.01-4.01   sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   4.01-5.00   sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   5.00-6.01   sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   6.01-7.01   sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   7.01-8.01   sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   8.01-9.01   sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5]   9.01-10.01  sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
[  5]   0.00-10.01  sec  2.74 GBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec    2             sender
[  5]   0.00-10.01  sec  2.74 GBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  receiver

#./iperf3 -c 192.168.xx.31 -p 5201 --bidir (bidirectional)
Connecting to host 192.168.xx.31, port 5201
[  5] local 192.168.xx.54 port 63948 connected to 192.168.xx.31 port 5201
[  7] local 192.168.xx.54 port 63949 connected to 192.168.xx.31 port 5201
[ ID][Role] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  5][TX-C]   0.00-1.00   sec   278 MBytes  2.33 Gbits/sec                  
[  7][RX-C]   0.00-1.00   sec   273 MBytes  2.29 Gbits/sec                  
[  5][TX-C]   1.00-2.01   sec   280 MBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  
[  7][RX-C]   1.00-2.01   sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5][TX-C]   2.01-3.00   sec   278 MBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  
[  7][RX-C]   2.01-3.00   sec   279 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5][TX-C]   3.00-4.01   sec   280 MBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  
[  7][RX-C]   3.00-4.01   sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5][TX-C]   4.01-5.01   sec   279 MBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  
[  7][RX-C]   4.01-5.01   sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5][TX-C]   5.01-6.01   sec   279 MBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  
[  7][RX-C]   5.01-6.01   sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5][TX-C]   6.01-7.01   sec   279 MBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  
[  7][RX-C]   6.01-7.01   sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5][TX-C]   7.01-8.00   sec   278 MBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  
[  7][RX-C]   7.01-8.00   sec   279 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5][TX-C]   8.00-9.01   sec   280 MBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  
[  7][RX-C]   8.00-9.01   sec   281 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
[  5][TX-C]   9.01-10.01  sec   279 MBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  
[  7][RX-C]   9.01-10.01  sec   280 MBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec                  
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID][Role] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
[  5][TX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec  2.72 GBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  sender
[  5][TX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec  2.72 GBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  receiver
[  7][RX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec  2.73 GBytes  2.35 Gbits/sec    1             sender
[  7][RX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec  2.73 GBytes  2.34 Gbits/sec                  receiver

 

Edited by ebin-dev
Posted

Currently I can switch between kernels using:

apt -d install  armbian-bsp-cli-rock-5b-collabora linux-image-collabora-rockchip-rk3588 linux-dtb-collabora-rockchip-rk3588 linux-headers-collabora-rockchip-rk3588

Followed by a "dpkg -i --force /var/cache/apt/archive/*collabora*...

 

The advantages, I get a 6.9.0-kernel with the collabora patches.

Disadvantages:

- the devfreq for the gpu is implemented in 6.8.x and not in the collabora kernel.

- PCI for AX210 is only implemented in 6.1.43 (vendor).

 

Lack of advantages: mesa 24.1 is available in experimental, but not yet in bookworm. Using a kernel with a panthor driver is a little pointless that way.

Also, there is a clash between armbian-bsp-cli and armbian-firmware-full, meaning above command cannot be executed without the "force" command.

 

I'll wait for the 6.9.3 or the 6.9.4 kernel...

Posted

Last week mesa 24.1.0 was released and friday 24.1.0-2 reached sid.

This means that with sid + the armbian-edge kernels making panthor work on the rock-5b is pretty easy.

 

Hope the AX210 follows soon. I've seen comments that it currently iis working on the Orange Pi 5.

 

Can't wait until mesa 24.1 hits trixie.

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