Ma Tianfu Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 I am considering to buy a RK3399 dev board and use USB 3.0 peripheral mode to transfer data to/from another host PC. It may be used as USB CDC/Eth or RNDIS device, or a MTP device. We hope the transfer rate could be well over 1Gbps, the higher, the better. So has anybody ever benchmarked RK3399 USB in peripheral mode? Such as the highest iperf transfer rate in CDC/Eth or RNDIS mode?
hipboi Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 I can test here for you on RK3399? How to test it?
Ma Tianfu Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, hipboi said: I can test here for you on RK3399? How to test it? TI has an old document: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Networking_over_USB I don't know if linux kernel driver has changed recently. I have followed the procedure several years ago on beaglebone black. TI also has also published an extensive benchmarking results for almost all its linux enabled arm cpus. http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Processor_SDK_Linux_Kernel_Performance_Guide In this page, the performance of peripheral mode USB is not good. For example, CDC performance of their flagship Sitara processor (multi-core cortex A15) is merely around 250Mbits/s, far less than the theoretical 5Gbps USB 3.0 bandwidth. I guess it is due to the MUSB IP used on TI's arm chip. Perhaps it has too few FIFO/buffers in hardware.
Ma Tianfu Posted January 24, 2018 Author Posted January 24, 2018 I phoned the rockchip engineer who is responsible for kernel usb stack. He said they had tested usb mass storage mode, which gave a promising result: over 200Mbytes speed cound be achieved. I will test it myself in next few days when I have time.
Jens Bauer Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 I'm curious, which development board are you considering ? If the board has a PCIe/Mini-PCIe card slot, then you might have other options in addition (including adding more USB3.0 ports of course). (I wonder if it's possible to make a full PCIe connection between a board and a computer; some boards are born as PCIe cards, so they'd support it from 'birth', but I don't know if it can be done using some 'board-to-board' cards).
chrisf Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Jens Bauer said: I wonder if it's possible to make a full PCIe connection between a board and a computer Apparently yes Not sure if it's a matter of a simple PCIe cable or not (it implies that's the case for "local networking" between two PC's, a PCIe switch for a network of more than two) but if you scroll down just past half way here, it mentions it https://www.onestopsystems.com/blog-post/pcie-over-cable-goes-mainstream The PCI Express bus has direct access to system memory, I don't see why either side of the point-to-point connection can't be the initiator. 1
Xalius Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 The USB3 controller on RK3328 (Rock64/...) can be more or less saturated with a SSD using UAS. I got about 380MB/s (theoretical maximum for UAS is just over 400MB/s) using iozone, and since RK3399 uses the same DW IP block, I would guess that RK3399 is similar...
Jens Bauer Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 On January 31, 2018 at 8:31 PM, chrisf said: https://www.onestopsystems.com/blog-post/pcie-over-cable-goes-mainstream The PCI Express bus has direct access to system memory, I don't see why either side of the point-to-point connection can't be the initiator. I certainly learned a lot from reading this. My theory was based upon that PCIe is almost 'nothing but' differential pairs. Since there's no GND involved, in theory it wouldn't be difficult to connect a TX+ to RX+, TX- to RX- and the other way round (for direct peer-to-peer connection) - or perhaps making a ring, sending data only clockwise in the 'network'. But as I read on in the article, they mention PCIe over fiber; I think this is an excellent idea, because it'd protect against ESD, lightning and EMI - even if using peer-to-peer between two computers next to eachother, it'd be a good idea to use fiber (compared to copper) - especially if the two PCs (or devices) are protected against lightning. Thank you for sharing the link - it's good food for the brain.
Jens Bauer Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 On February 1, 2018 at 1:33 AM, Xalius said: The USB3 controller on RK3328 (Rock64/...) can be more or less saturated with a SSD using UAS. I got about 380MB/s (theoretical maximum for UAS is just over 400MB/s) using iozone, and since RK3399 uses the same DW IP block, I would guess that RK3399 is similar... I'm sorry, but you lost me there. I have to ask what UAS stands for in this case.
Jose Deras Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3-uas-turbo,3215-4.html USB Attached SCSI 1
Jens Bauer Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 44 minutes ago, Jose Deras said: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3-uas-turbo,3215-4.html USB Attached SCSI Thanks for clearing that up, Jose - that makes sense. I'm relieved that it's not Uniformed Army Surveillance.
haajee Posted August 1, 2020 Posted August 1, 2020 Hmm, sorry for the kick of this topic. But i trie to connect a USB 3.0 to NVME adapter on the USB 3.0 port. But just after insert it´s detected, But when i trie lsusb -v i got errors and lsusb hangs. After that the nvme disk is not detected anymore. On USB 2.0 it works ok but slow. When i connect on a USB 3.0 hub with external power the same problem happen. When the USB 3.0 lsusb -v hangs: $ sudo lsusb -v Bus 004 Device 030: ID 174c:2362 ASMedia Technology Inc. Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 3.20 bDeviceClass 0 bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 9 idVendor 0x174c ASMedia Technology Inc. idProduct 0x2362 bcdDevice 1.00 iManufacturer 2 (error) iProduct 3 (error) iSerial 1 (error) bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 0x0079 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xc0 Self Powered MaxPower 0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage bInterfaceSubClass 6 SCSI bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk-Only iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0400 1x 1024 bytes bInterval 0 bMaxBurst 15 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0400 1x 1024 bytes bInterval 0 bMaxBurst 15 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 1 bNumEndpoints 4 bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage bInterfaceSubClass 6 SCSI bInterfaceProtocol 98 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0400 1x 1024 bytes bInterval 0 bMaxBurst 15 MaxStreams 32 Data-in pipe (0x03) Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0400 1x 1024 bytes bInterval 0 bMaxBurst 15 MaxStreams 32 Data-out pipe (0x04) Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0400 1x 1024 bytes bInterval 0 bMaxBurst 15 MaxStreams 32 Status pipe (0x02) Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x04 EP 4 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0400 1x 1024 bytes bInterval 0 bMaxBurst 0 Command pipe (0x01) can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable On USB 2.0 port: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 174c:2362 ASMedia Technology Inc. Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.10 bDeviceClass 0 bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x174c ASMedia Technology Inc. idProduct 0x2362 bcdDevice 1.00 iManufacturer 2 Ugreen iProduct 3 Ugreen Storage Device iSerial 1 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 0x0020 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xc0 Self Powered MaxPower 0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage bInterfaceSubClass 6 SCSI bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk-Only iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Binary Object Store Descriptor: bLength 5 bDescriptorType 15 wTotalLength 0x002a bNumDeviceCaps 3 USB 2.0 Extension Device Capability: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 16 bDevCapabilityType 2 bmAttributes 0x0000f41e BESL Link Power Management (LPM) Supported BESL value 1024 us Deep BESL value 61440 us SuperSpeed USB Device Capability: bLength 10 bDescriptorType 16 bDevCapabilityType 3 bmAttributes 0x00 wSpeedsSupported 0x000e Device can operate at Full Speed (12Mbps) Device can operate at High Speed (480Mbps) Device can operate at SuperSpeed (5Gbps) bFunctionalitySupport 1 Lowest fully-functional device speed is Full Speed (12Mbps) bU1DevExitLat 10 micro seconds bU2DevExitLat 2047 micro seconds SuperSpeedPlus USB Device Capability: bLength 20 bDescriptorType 16 bDevCapabilityType 10 bmAttributes 0x00000001 Sublink Speed Attribute count 1 Sublink Speed ID count 0 wFunctionalitySupport 0x1100 bmSublinkSpeedAttr[0] 0x000a4030 Speed Attribute ID: 0 10Gb/s Symmetric RX SuperSpeedPlus bmSublinkSpeedAttr[1] 0x000a40b0 Speed Attribute ID: 0 10Gb/s Symmetric TX SuperSpeedPlus can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable Device Status: 0x0001 Self Powered
haajee Posted August 1, 2020 Posted August 1, 2020 Oh i found just the solution in this topic: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/239782/connection-problem-with-usb3-external-storage-on-linux-uas-driver-problem i need to run echo "174c:2362:u" | sudo tee /sys/module/usb_storage/parameters/quirks And after reinsert it works and i could mount the drive! And for the people who are interested. A small test on the disk: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/disk/by-label/WinToUSB /dev/disk/by-label/WinToUSB /dev/disk/by-label/WinToUSB: Timing cached reads: 2662 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1331.48 MB/sec SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Timing buffered disk reads: 1034 MB in 3.00 seconds = 344.54 MB/sec /dev/disk/by-label/WinToUSB: Timing cached reads: 2764 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1382.84 MB/sec SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Timing buffered disk reads: 1028 MB in 3.01 seconds = 341.88 MB/sec
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