guidol Posted August 31, 2018 Posted August 31, 2018 On 7/14/2018 at 8:27 PM, TonyMac32 said: @guidol has a good looking case mentioned in the NanoPi K1+ thread Expand today - when I did try to relase a Samsung EVO 32GB from the K1+ - a screw (which hold the mainboard) did "break" out of the aluminium-case The Samsung EVO 32GB seems to be thicker than the 16GB SanDisk Ultra - so the Samsung EVO 32GB had problems getting out of the case after the release click
guidol Posted September 26, 2018 Posted September 26, 2018 Nice idea for a case:https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/cases-183/raspberry-pi-b-plus2-and-3-cases-1122/pi-box-pro-industrial-case-silver Having connectors on multiple sides makes it difficult to house the Raspberry Pi Model B for industrial applications. Lincoln Binns has designed the Pi-Box Pro to solve this problem! The Pi-Box Pro industrial case come with an extender board, bringing the HDMI and Micro USB sockets to the same end as the USB & Ethernet! The Pi-Box Pro can be mounted to virtually any surface, and is made of industrial grade aluminium.
tkaiser Posted September 26, 2018 Posted September 26, 2018 On 9/26/2018 at 3:12 PM, guidol said: bringing the HDMI and Micro USB sockets to the same end as the USB & Ethernet! Expand Anyone catching the irony to keep Micro USB for powering? Guess it all depends on your target audience... 2
guidol Posted September 26, 2018 Posted September 26, 2018 On 9/26/2018 at 3:32 PM, tkaiser said: Anyone catching the irony to keep Micro USB for powering? Guess it all depends on your target audience... Expand YES on the inside a option for powering via the header-pins, but not at the outside... but the front is acryl.... easy for adding a own powerport
chwe Posted September 26, 2018 Posted September 26, 2018 On 9/26/2018 at 3:32 PM, tkaiser said: Anyone catching the irony to keep Micro USB for powering? Guess it all depends on your target audience... Expand the American way.. If one isn't enough.. double it... What can go wrong with microUSB --> pinheader --> microUSB? But that (to my knowledge) no boardmaker ever thought that a 'one side board' might be useful is something I never understood.. (okay, except the HC1..)
ag123 Posted September 26, 2018 Posted September 26, 2018 unfortunately no thanks to the big brand companies who brought the r-pi and tinkerboard (shudder) to the masses, for some reason, some brand companies seem to think micro-usb for powering a 10 watts or more board should be adequate, i'd guess that's why the board is designed that way in the first place on another note i went for an orange pi choosing between that and tinkerboard as partly due to price and that for those orange pi boards i bought, they come with their own dc barrel jack connectors, it is simply better for a bit more board real estate
sfx2000 Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 9/26/2018 at 9:30 PM, ag123 said: unfortunately no thanks to the big brand companies who brought the r-pi and tinkerboard (shudder) to the masses, for some reason, some brand companies seem to think micro-usb for powering a 10 watts or more board should be adequate, i'd guess that's why the board is designed that way in the first place on another note i went for an orange pi choosing between that and tinkerboard as partly due to price and that for those orange pi boards i bought, they come with their own dc barrel jack connectors, it is simply better for a bit more board real estate Expand Hehe... just wait for USB-C connectors on SBC's... that's going to be a mess with all the interesting options (perhaps the reason why the folks over on Cupertino decided with their recent HW releases to keep their proprietary connection) 1
TonyMac32 Posted October 2, 2018 Author Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 2:09 AM, sfx2000 said: (perhaps the reason why the folks over on Cupertino decided with their recent HW releases to keep their proprietary connection) Expand I don't think continuing a 30+ year trend of using proprietary connections/hardware solutions is any indication of USB-C.
tkaiser Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 2:09 AM, sfx2000 said: just wait for USB-C connectors on SBC's Expand They're there already: Firefly RK3399, Vim, Vim2, RockPro64, NanoPC-T4, NanoPi M4, Ficus, Renegade Elite and soon also NanoPi NEO4, Khadas Edge and Edge-V are equipped with USB-C. Some of these boards use USB-C as power input. Here we need to differentiate between 'dumb mode' and 'USB PD compliant' (USB PD --> USB Power delivery specs): With the boards that use just an USB-C receptacle to be fed with 5V (Vim, Vim2, NanoPi M4, NanoPi NEO4) problems are to be expected since real USB-C chargers won't provide enough current (here me citing the specs) and dumb 5V PSUs combined with high currents result in the usual voltage drop With boards that implement USB-C powering also being USB PD compliant you need an extremely expensive USB-C charger So as long as there are not real USB-C chargers lying around in every household and all SBC are USB PD compliant USB-C for powering SBC is simply either a mess or an expensive adventure. On 10/2/2018 at 2:09 AM, sfx2000 said: (perhaps the reason why the folks over on Cupertino decided with their recent HW releases to keep their proprietary connection) Expand You're talking about some Apple smartphones and tablets still using their Lightning connector and not USB-C? Most probably related to the count of peripherals that already use Lightning (Docking Stations and stuff like that). Apple was the company pushing hard for USB market adoption 20 years ago (giving up on their own proprietary ADB bus standard which resulted in a lot of users like me having to buy adapters for expensive ADB peripherals like graphics tablets and such stuff) and they also sent truckloads of engineers to USB Implementers Forum years ago when USB-C and USB PD were defined. Most probably to prevent USB-IF ever doing something silly as Micro USB again (so that they had to invent something own as Lightning since Micro USB already sucked back then).
chwe Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 6:59 AM, tkaiser said: Here we need to differentiate between 'dumb mode' and 'USB PD compliant' (USB PD --> USB Power delivery specs): Expand maybe we should add 'dumb mode' to known issues for those boards? As soon as more PD chargers will come up those boards will create a lot of traffic here: https://forum.armbian.com/forum/31-sd-card-and-power-supply/ On 10/2/2018 at 6:59 AM, tkaiser said: You're talking about some Apple smartphones and tablets still using their Lightning connector and not USB-C? Expand If those cables were not 30$ and the cheap fakes destroyed the phone.
tkaiser Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 10:29 AM, chwe said: maybe we should add 'dumb mode' to known issues for those boards? Expand Sure, feel free to create an 'USB-C powered boards -- important information' thread or something like that. On 10/2/2018 at 10:29 AM, chwe said: On 10/2/2018 at 6:59 AM, tkaiser said: You're talking about some Apple smartphones and tablets still using their Lightning connector and not USB-C? Expand If those cables were not 30$ and the cheap fakes destroyed the phone. Expand How is that different with USB-C? See https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-usb-c-chargers-whats-safe-whats-dangerous/ or https://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/10916264/usb-c-russian-roulette-power-cords for example.
chwe Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 10:36 AM, tkaiser said: Sure, feel free to create an 'USB-C powered boards -- important information' thread or something like that. Expand done: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/8361-usb-c-powered-boards-important-information/ and done: https://www.armbian.com/nanopi-m4/ what about https://www.armbian.com/nanopc-t4/ ? Feel free to enhance, it's only a starter.
TonyMac32 Posted October 3, 2018 Author Posted October 3, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 12:22 PM, chwe said: what about https://www.armbian.com/nanopc-t4/ ? Expand It doesn't power via USB-C, so should not be an issue. 1
sfx2000 Posted October 6, 2018 Posted October 6, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 6:59 AM, tkaiser said: You're talking about some Apple smartphones and tablets still using their Lightning connector and not USB-C? Expand Apple did have some "courage" in removing MagSafe, DisplayPort/Thunderbolt, HDMI, SDCard and USB-A ports on the MacBook Pro's... Courage != Smart, IMHO there, as many that had existing laptops fiercely resisted upgrades... as those ports/slots were very useful (and most of the useful keys for the touchbar Macbook Pro's - that's courage I suppose to alienate many that do unix/linux dev on the shell, esc and tilde were muscle memory there with editors) Notable they didn't replace Lightning with USB-C on the iDevices... which is one area where they would benefit due to regulatory pressure* from many regions... * huge pressure from EU/China to do a common phone charging/accessory connector to reduce e-Waste, Apple is one of the last there
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