OrangePi Zero old releases

[av4625]

Hi,

 

I think I'm right in saying that this board once had standard support?

I noticed it is now community support and the download page lists that there might be Wi-Fi issues.

 

I have this link for previous builds: https://armbian.hosthatch.com/archive/orangepizero/archive/

 

Is there a way of knowing when standard support stopped and community support started etc?

 

Thanks!

[robertoj]

Are you using the latest Debian Bookworm Minimal, or the more complete Ubuntu Jammy Server?

 

In either case, post the result of "lsmod". Run "ip a" and see if there's any "wlan" interface.

 

Run (root) nmtui to try to activate wifi. If nmtui is not available, run "apt install network-manager".

 

Or try it "armbian-config" (apt install armbian-config)

 

If you are using Debian Bookworm, try with Ubuntu Jammy instead... it worked for me yesterday, with Orange Pi Zero and wifi.

[av4625]

Hi robertoj,

 

I’m not specifically having issues, my current device is running an older version. I bought a new second device and came to download an up to date OS and thats when I noticed its not got standard support anymore and the download page mentions there might be wifi issues.

 

I more made the post to see if there is a way of telling which older builds had standard support and when that support stopped.

 

Then I could download the latest build that still had standard support and hopefully less issues. 
 

Thanks!

[Igor]

2 hours ago, av4625 said:

Is there a way of knowing when standard support stopped and community support started etc?

 

Yes. When it doesn't meet support criteria anymore. This is done around release time:
https://docs.armbian.com/User-Guide_Board-Support-Rules/

When time comes, I ask maintainer(s) via email / chat / forum on status, wait few days and if there is no response or interest, if nobody takes supported board under the cover, board status is demoted. I have no alternative as Armbian can't cover financial burden. Its way of charts - we only generate loss by supporting hardware. There is extremely negative budget around Orangepi and they show no interest to support open source in any way.

When someone from community takes a role of "Marketing Coordinator"
 

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process will be probably possible to improve and lead better so results (for you) will be better. What we provide now with what we have, is already on the miracle levels. But ofc just a small group of people is able to understand.

 

At next release, if someone steps up and it has a value for the project, status is restored. 

 

Don't worry. "Community support" is still better then any other distributions that "supports" this hardware. Our standards and level of know-how are significantly higher.

[av4625]

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Yes. When it doesn't meet support criteria anymore. This is done around release time:
https://docs.armbian.com/User-Guide_Board-Support-Rules/

When time comes, I ask maintainer(s) via email / chat / forum on status, wait few days and if there is no response or interest, if nobody takes supported board under the cover, board status is demoted. I have no alternative as Armbian can't cover financial burden. Its way of charts - we only generate loss by supporting hardware.

 

I completely understand this and I am not trying to pick a fight with anyone about what is and isn't supported  

I had read that link earlier on the different support levels to understand the differences between them.

 

But what I am asking is from all the builds on here: https://armbian.hosthatch.com/archive/orangepizero/archive/

 

Is there a way for me to know which builds were produced when this particular device was considered standard support and which builds were produced when this particular device was considered community support?

I would like to pick the most recent build that was produced when it was considered standard support.

 

Basically I would like the most recent build that didn't have the disclaimer here: https://www.armbian.com/orange-pi-zero/ about the possibility of things not working (hopefully that makes sense).

 

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There is extremely negative budget around Orangepi and they show no interest to support open source in any way.

This is sad because in my limited experience Armbian works very well on OrangePi, its a pity that they wouldn't support it themselves.

[Igor]

25 minutes ago, av4625 said:

about the possibility of things not working

 

This information is not gathered even where vendor shares financial burden with us (Platinum support) as that only means that we are not generating 100% loss while providing standard support.

 

28 minutes ago, av4625 said:

Basically I would like the most recent build that didn't have the disclaimer here

 

Disclaimer tells that status has changed. It has no affect on images. They continue getting updates, just its fair to tell you that nobody is actually behind. Or you want that we rather lie like our competitors? TINA

[av4625]

Thanks for the answer. So just to make sure that I'm clear there is no way to see what builds had what support levels for a specific device?  Like no timeline for the support the device had?

For example:

1. March 2020 -> Community
2. June 2022 -> Standard
3. December 2023 -> Community

Thats the sort of thing I mean. Maybe this information just isn't kept, just thought I'd ask incase it was.

[Werner]

6 hours ago, av4625 said:

Maybe this information just isn't kept

There is no dedicated record for this, yes. But you can check for file extension changes on specific board configuration files in the commits like:https://github.com/armbian/build/commits/main/config/boards/orangepizero.csc

[av4625]

Thats exactly what I was looking for thanks