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Armbian developers meeting 1/11/2023
NicoD replied to Igor's topic in Armbian Project Administration
That was very infomative. Can't add much to the discussion. I agree that forum used to be a lot better and more important. Because of the use of Discord, irc, Jira... there is more fragmentation. We used to use the forum also to chat between devs/users/mederators. Now that is done on discord, irc or github. So the fun is out of the forum. Nothing of what is said on discord is of value in the future. While what is said on the forum keeps its value and is easy to find. Github is good for bugreports and discussion on how to go ahead. But it is a developers tool and not for regular users. Discord is good to chat. It added features we didn't have on the forum like being able to do voice chats or video chat. But it takes away the focus from the forum for many. I don't check the forum as much as I used to. Only see if there is anything interesting in the notifications. But I miss a lot because I'm not present as much. And what happens on the forum isn't communicated much about on discord. Maybe a discord/irc room where forum posts can be seen. Just the titles would be enough to sparkle curiosity. For me there is too much to have to keep up with. I've got my YT channel, reddit, facebook groups, forum, discord, twitter, ... Quality decreases when too much is going on. Nobody can keep up with it maybe except Igor. (he seems to see it al ) Watched at 1.25x. -
@BananaramaYou can always try to uninstall the desktop to see if that works. sudo apt remove lxde sudo apt purge lxde sudo apt autoremove I think that should do it. I don't use OMV anymore. So no idea if it works on desktop image. Not sure if/when Armbian will support this device. It is a nice one. But they make so many that it is hard to support them all.
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Armbian related videos / video documentation thread!
NicoD replied to TheLinuxBug's topic in Announcements
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Hi all. I've just finished making my review video about the Khadas Edge2. No Armbian on it(yet). It is an awesome board, and I'm very happy to have it. I'm still waiting on my Rock5B to arrive, so this helped me overcome this period. But it does have its limits. For some goals it is perfect, some others not so much. Here my video. Greetings, NicoD
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I've got my Mekotronics. It's an R58 with aluminum case. It's written on it on the bottom that's and X. But the online documentation says the R58X is another model. https://mekotronics.en.made-in-china.com/product/wJLprRYvsmVM/China-Mekotronics-Android-12-OS-Linux-Ubuntu-Debian-Real-8K-Rk3588-16g-64G-HDMI-HD-Edge-Computing-Device.html https://www.mekotronics.com/h-col-104.html It does have a SATA connector, but no room for a drive. And that small plastic that keeps the ribon in already broken off. That's a pitty, now I'm jealous of the plastic one. Seems software is limited. Android ain't great. But it works. Needs chinese software to install something else. The case isn't used for cooling. It has an ok sized heatsink. But not sure if that's going to keep it cool with a continuous max load. I'll see. Seems also made for digital signage with all the HDMI/DP. 2 x HDMI-out + DP + USB-C DP. And HDMI-in. Too bad the ethernet is 1Gb. I'd love to have seen 2.5GbE. For that the Mixtile Blade3 will be great. That'll be a very overpowered NAS I'm replacing all my running machines with RK3588. Got enough Now still waiting on the Rock5B to hopefully be my main desktop. Edge2 does that well enough, but I hate the fan and the need for it. @balbes150I can ask my contact if you can have a R58 mini PC if you'd like? I'd love to see Armbian on it. But it's not a need for me. Got other devices for Linux. And I do want an Android RK3588 for gaming. It also isn't a perfect RK3588 mini-PC. Lacking NVMe for that, the plastic one then is better with the SATA. They are working on another model with NVMe.
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This is the Mixtile Blade 3. https://www.mixtile.com/blade-3/ Seems a nice board, but no idea how software will be.
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win32diskimager It can create .img files from sd-cards and save where ever you want. It can write them to sd-cards. It is simple, lightweight and does what it needs to do. Just be careful with other USB devices connected. Always make sure you've got the correct drive names. Or else... I once formatted my USB hard drive from 1.5TB with all movies and music. Wasn't my happiest day. Tought me to use a NAS for it instead.
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I didn't know or forgot about that one. Too many things to remember and not enough braincells left. I thought I'd have about every RK3588(S) there was. Not the Station M3 it seems. I'm also getting a "Mixtile Blade 3". I know very little about the device, except that it has PCIe. @balbes150 I don't suppose you're going to support that? The Mekotronics I'm planning to use as an Android device only(if Android is as good as Edge2). Got Edge2, R6S and Rock5B for Linux. That Blade3 I'd love to test PCIe devices on. Maybe make a better NAS from it than HC4 with 4x SATA PCIe adapter. It already has 2.5GbE. Good job! Any other RK3588(s) you will support?
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Hi. The Raspberry Pi 3B/3B+ isn't a supported board. The images are menth to be used on Raspberry Pi4 and 400 only. That you can make it work on the 3B+ is just a bonus. I noticed the devs have been working on RPi4 images, and this will probably be one of the changes made. And I think they will have good reasons for this. Not that I know the reason...
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Strange. I was contacted by them to review an Mekotronics R56 Mini PC. Mine would have a metal case, but I think the board is the same. Didn't notice it doesn't have an sd-card. They mentioned it'd have SATA, don't see that on yours. Is there any reason you need Armbian? Is there something wrong with their images? Do they actually have images to download? It states on their website to have Debian 11 and Ubuntu 20.04. I didn't look into it yet. My guess would be it's a bit early for Armbian on it. Only RK3588 that I know of has Armbian is Rock5B. So if you'd be willing to put in the work to compare rock5B dtb with the dtb of their images and manage to get it working. But if no dev has this device, then I don't think real Armbian support will come. I'm no dev... ps. Now I see the SATA, on top of the device with room for a drive. That is nice.
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@gene1934You didn't give the needed information to be able to help you well. What image are you using? What desktop? What kernel? ... This is indeed something Armbian could do without. I've had simular problems with other boards. I always disable it manually. It depends on what desktop you are using how to disable it. For xfce4 you need to install xfce4-power-manager And I think you need to work with screensaver to disable display and not go into sleep. With other desktops it might be different. The second question. Many ways to check this. Simplest should be "df -H" The once with "/" is your boot device. Or you can just check in a file manager what size it is(if eMMC and sd are not the same size) Or use gnome-disks to see what's used. One thing I can tell you is that when you reboot the M5 with an sd-card inserted it will always boot from eMMC. Cold boot it will boot from sd.
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Armbian 22.11 (Goral) Release Thread
NicoD replied to Igor's topic in Armbian Project Administration
I tried my VIM3 but the damn thing doesn't seem to be working anymore. I dropped it a few weeks ago. Tried it for the first time now and no boot. The LED goes off every 2/3 seconds as if it's trying to boot again. I tried Khadas image, different sd-cards. All the same, also not booting from eMMC... So I guess I'll have to be cut from the maintainer list for VIM3. I'll try the VIM2, BPiM5, P1, N2+ and Odroid C2 tomorrow. -
Armbian related videos / video documentation thread!
NicoD replied to TheLinuxBug's topic in Announcements
Armbian Jammy Cinnamon on PC. -
Don't set locales on location. Choose "no" when asked at boot. And select the locales you want. I'm from Belgium but want English. So I choose. No, 47, 7, 6, 1 Or change locales with "sudo armbian-config" No idea why you have armhf packages. Did you install box86 or something else that use armhf?
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Another update. I've tried the same 6.0.6 Jammy image on another eMMC and this boots from sd. This is I think an eMMC from Pine64. The other was from Hardkernel with "Only for C" written on it. So with the old 4.4 (and probably old u-boot) on the Hardkernel eMMC I'm able to boot every image from SD. But with a later image I'm unable to. It didn't boot from eMMC either. This was a quick fix at a moment I didn't have time to investigate. But the eMMC boot doesn't go well. Stops with BusyBox & initramfs. It's more than I had with my other eMMC where it didn't initiate boot and didn't get anything on display.
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So I wrote the 6.0.6 image to eMMC and as I expected the device doesn't boot anymore. Not from eMMC, not from sd. LED turns on, nothing comes on the display. Now I've got to screw it open again to write my old 4.4 image to eMMC. @Wilhelm MoserWhat do you have on your eMMC?
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Armbian_22.08.10_Pinebook-pro_jammy_edge_6.0.6_cinnamon_desktop.img Armbian_22.11.0-trunk_Pinebook-pro_kinetic_edge_6.0.7_xfce_desktop.img Both also boot. Do you want me to install to eMMC to test? I can, I just hope it doesn't f up everything. I've got a non-functional image on my eMMC just for booting sd-cards. My last trip I couldn't boot the PBP anymore because of a new install. So my fix was to write this broken (4.4) image to eMMC to enable sd-boot. Bad fix...
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Works sometimes. I've had it work a few minutes and then gone again. I'm able to boot this image : Armbian_22.08.7_Pinebook-pro_jammy_edge_5.19.16_cinnamon_desktop.img @Wilhelm MoserCan have to do with what you've got on your eMMC. I had this problem too with the wrong image on eMMC. Don't remember the details anymore. But had to write an old image to eMMC to get sd to boot. Don't want to install this image to eMMC to test, I've opened my PBP a bit too much and the screws are bad.
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@WernerImages seem to be not available here. Always either 404 or https://armbian.hosthatch.com/dl/pinebook-pro/archive/Armbian_22.08.10_Pinebook-pro_jammy_edge_6.0.6_gnome_desktop.img.xz when I click one of the download links. Downloading from archives image from 22/10/02.
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What kind of software can you install on armbian?
NicoD replied to FilSan's topic in Software, Applications, Userspace
I can also add. There are multiple ways to install packages on Armbian(ubuntu/debian) There is the apt way where you find most software. But if you can't find it there, you can also try snap (sudo apt install snap snapd) There are a few nice programs there that aren't in the apt repo's. Like barrier(tool to share keyboard and mouse over different computers and operating systems) Then there is also the possibility of flatpak. (sudo apt install flatpak) Takes up a lot of space, but if it works... If you can't find it on any of those, then you can see if the source code can be downloaded and build for arm64/armhf. Most open-source projects allow this, and many have good instructions. For SBC, I advice not to buy the newest shiny thing with greatest specs. Do good research to find out what board/SoC is best supported. See if your devices work on it like wifi dongles or network adapters. Ask around. And then buy the board you know will fit your goals. With my first purchases I had luck that I bought the right boards for my goals. But after that I bought tons of devices expecting things that were not there. Most devices took years to work well, and many others never worked as they should've. I do like to tinker and try stuff till it works. But good research before buying saves you a lot of time to get things working. -
That is more than reasonable. Would even be fantastic. I've got a few days. I just need the video to be out before the give away stops. That is a nice idea. I've never tried wayland on Armbian. I am now using wayland on Edge2 and VIM4. But without xwayland with GPU acceleration there's not much fun to it. So with a well supported SoC/GPU it must be a lot more fun.
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@jock Sorry to bother you. I'm testing the OrangePi800, and it doesn't seem to have the media framework working on balbes150 his images. Do you know more about this? Igor directed me to this -> https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/4098 I'm no developer and have to admit I know little about this. I used to use the media script on Bionic and after that Buster and that ran great. But had not used RK3399 in a long time for that. I made a review video, but don't want the info to be outdated in a few days. Cheers.
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Their kernel is 5.19.15-2 I'll mention they've got the device earlier and are further ahead for now. I did try the 5.18.5 Sid xfce image and there was no on-board wifi and even my 5Ghz dongle didn't work with it. 5.19.5 and 6.0.6 Jammy xfce were the best images I tried. I'm using my 5Ghz dongle on it and that works. Just only 2.4Ghz with on-board wifi. I do see my 5Ghz network, but can't connect. The same with OPiOS. But works with Manjaro. I tried LibreElec. OPiRK3399 version. It runs, but no on-board wifi and no sound. So not really useful. I'm gonna make the video now. Thank you for the great work.
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Tried the 6.0.6 Jammy xfce4 image. Wifi works, but again my 5Ghz wifi is unable to connect. 5Ghz dongle works. I tested Manjaro yesterday and there the 5Ghz works as should. And also video playback there is perfect. It seems to have hardware accelerated video playback. No screen tearing, no reloads and perfect 1080p youtube and 1440p h264 video files. So for me Armbian is way better for gaming since I know how to install everything here with armbian-gaming. So I'll show that with gaming. And Manjaro is a good 2nd image for video playback and light desktop use. Tho more software works on Armbian in my experience. I hope the media framework can be brought back to life for Armbian on RK3399. I used to love working with it. Also found out that the strange color on my vga was due to a decaying vga cable. Tried with another cable and it works as it should. Doesn't work on 6.0.6. I think you know that. Also the on-board speaker doesn't work. But hdmi audio is working on 6.0.6 *** After reboot it's back. So seems sometimes audio devices don't wake up at boot. Cheers.