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Posted (edited)

Hello,

 

I'm trying to install the zfs-dkms package with the latest build (Armbian_23.02.0-trunk.0127_Orangepi5_jammy_legacy_5.10.110_xfce_desktop.img.xz) and I get the following error:

 

configure: error:
        *** This kernel does not include the required loadable module
        *** support!
        ***
        *** To build OpenZFS as a loadable Linux kernel module
        *** enable loadable module support by setting
        *** `CONFIG_MODULES=y` in the kernel configuration and run
        *** `make modules_prepare` in the Linux source tree.
        ***
        *** If you don't intend to enable loadable kernel module
        *** support, please compile OpenZFS as a Linux kernel built-in.
        ***
        *** Prepare the Linux source tree by running `make prepare`,
        *** use the OpenZFS `--enable-linux-builtin` configure option,
        *** copy the OpenZFS sources into the Linux source tree using
        *** `./copy-builtin <linux source directory>`,
        *** set `CONFIG_ZFS=y` in the kernel configuration and compile
        *** kernel as usual.

 

 

The strange thing is, that `CONFIG_MODULES` is enabled:

 

orangepi5:~:# grep -i config_modules /usr/src/linux-headers-5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588/.config
CONFIG_MODULES_USE_ELF_RELA=y
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULES_TREE_LOOKUP=y

 

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

 

Thanx,

Nico

 

Edited by royalroot
  • royalroot changed the title to Problems installing zfs-dkms -> config_modules not enabled?
Posted (edited)

Confirmed. Issue still present in 23.02 release.

 

root@sperber ~ [100]# cat /var/lib/dkms/zfs/2.1.6/build/build/build.log
make: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588'
arch/arm64/Makefile:44: Detected assembler with broken .inst; disassembly will be unreliable
/usr/bin/env: 'python2': No such file or directory
  MODPOST /var/lib/dkms/zfs/2.1.6/build/build/Module.symvers
/bin/sh: 1: scripts/mod/modpost: not found
make[1]: *** [scripts/Makefile.modpost:169: /var/lib/dkms/zfs/2.1.6/build/build/Module.symvers] Error 127
make[1]: Target '__modpost' not remade because of errors.
make: *** [Makefile:1822: modules] Error 2
make: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588'

 

Edited by Marco Schirrmeister
Posted

Any update; I downloaded the latest Ubuntu and Armbian images and install zfs still won't modprobe with the same issueAny update; I downloaded the latest Ubuntu and Armbian images and install zfs still won't modprobe with the same issue

Posted

This is a temporary fix, but I can build it by adding the missing files and generating the files needed to build the module, as shown in the link.
The command I ran is below.

cd /usr/src/linux-headers-5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588
wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/torvalds/linux/v5.10/arch/arm64/kernel/vdso/vdso.lds.S -P arch/arm64/kernel/vdso
wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/torvalds/linux/v5.10/arch/arm64/kernel/vdso/vgettimeofday.c -P arch/arm64/kernel/vdso
wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/torvalds/linux/v5.10/lib/vdso/gettimeofday.c -P lib/vdso
wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/torvalds/linux/v5.10/arch/arm64/kernel/vdso/note.c -P arch/arm64/kernel/vdso
wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/torvalds/linux/v5.10/arch/arm64/kernel/vdso/note.S -P arch/arm64/kernel/vdso
wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/torvalds/linux/v5.10/arch/arm64/kernel/vdso/sigreturn.S -P arch/arm64/kernel/vdso
wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/torvalds/linux/v5.10/arch/arm64/kernel/vdso/gen_vdso_offsets.sh -P arch/arm64/kernel/vdso
chmod +x arch/arm64/kernel/vdso/gen_vdso_offsets.sh
make KERNELVERSION=5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588 modules_prepare

https://github.com/armbian/build/issues/2734#issuecomment-950277542

 

 

Posted

Running the above commands does indeed allow the compilation of the ZFS DKMS module to start, but for me (running a fresh install of armbian 23.02 on the orange pi 5) running

apt install -t bullseye-backports zfs-dkms

still results in the following error
 

Setting up zfs-dkms (2.1.9-1~bpo11+1) ...
Loading new zfs-2.1.9 DKMS files...
Building for 5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588
Building initial module for 5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588
configure: error:
	*** None of the expected "file_fallocate" interfaces were detected.
	*** This may be because your kernel version is newer than what is
	*** supported, or you are using a patched custom kernel with
	*** incompatible modifications.
	***
	*** ZFS Version: zfs-2.1.9-1~bpo11+1
	*** Compatible Kernels: 3.10 - 6.1
	
Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588 (aarch64)
Consult /var/lib/dkms/zfs/2.1.9/build/make.log for more information.
dpkg: error processing package zfs-dkms (--configure):
 installed zfs-dkms package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 10

 

Posted (edited)

hi,

 

trying to compile wifi driver RTL8811AU on Orange PI 5, Armbian_22.11.4_Orangepi5_jammy_22.04_legacy_5.10.110_xfce_desktop.

 

sudo git clone https://github.com/morrownr/8821au-20210708.git
cd 8821au-20210708
sudo ./install-driver.sh

I receive an error. Trying to investigate:

 

lsb_release -a 

Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description:    Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS
Release:        22.04
Codename:       jammy

uname -r

5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588

 

First, missing python2 and solved with sudo apt-get install python2

 

Then issue with modpost. Not existing. So, trying:

 

cd /usr/src/linux-headers-5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588

sudo make modules_prepare

 

answering to a lot of questions with the default, then

 

scripts/Makefile.build:423: warning: overriding recipe for target 'modules.order'
Makefile:1518: warning: ignoring old recipe for target 'modules.order'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target 'arch/arm64/kernel/vdso/vdso.lds', needed by 'arch/arm64/kernel/vdso/vdso.so.dbg'.  Stop.
make: *** [arch/arm64/Makefile:194: vdso_prepare] Error 2

 

i'm not an expert. What's wrong , please?

thanks

 

Edited by Talb T
Posted
1 hour ago, Talb T said:

i'm not an expert.

 

Why would you want to compile? This wireless chip should just work out of the box (on latest images). Perhaps you have some weird ID that is not recognised?

Module info:

 

Spoiler
modinfo 88XXau 
filename:       /lib/modules/5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8812au/88XXau.ko
import_ns:      VFS_internal_I_am_really_a_filesystem_and_am_NOT_a_driver
version:        v5.6.4.2_35491.20191025
author:         Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
description:    Realtek Wireless Lan Driver
license:        GPL
srcversion:     3B5778D3BCA8C001CE8AC1D
alias:          usb:v7392pA833d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in*
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depends:        
intree:         Y
name:           88XXau
vermagic:       5.10.110-rockchip-rk3588 SMP mod_unload modversions aarch64
parm:           rtw_wireless_mode:int
parm:           rtw_monitor_overwrite_seqnum:Overwrite the sequence number of injected frames (int)
parm:           rtw_monitor_retransmit:Retransmit injected frames (int)
parm:           rtw_monitor_disable_1m:Disable default 1Mbps rate for monitor injected frames (int)
parm:           rtw_ips_mode:The default IPS mode (int)
parm:           rtw_lps_level:The default LPS level (int)
parm:           rtw_lps_chk_by_tp:int
parm:           rtw_max_bss_cnt:int
parm:           rtw_usb_rxagg_mode:int
parm:           rtw_dynamic_agg_enable:int
parm:           rtw_tx_bw_mode:The max tx bw for 2.4G and 5G. format is the same as rtw_bw_mode (uint)
parm:           rtw_rx_ampdu_sz_limit_1ss:RX AMPDU size limit for 1SS link of each BW, 0xFF: no limitation (array of uint)
parm:           rtw_rx_ampdu_sz_limit_2ss:RX AMPDU size limit for 2SS link of each BW, 0xFF: no limitation (array of uint)
parm:           rtw_rx_ampdu_sz_limit_3ss:RX AMPDU size limit for 3SS link of each BW, 0xFF: no limitation (array of uint)
parm:           rtw_rx_ampdu_sz_limit_4ss:RX AMPDU size limit for 4SS link of each BW, 0xFF: no limitation (array of uint)
parm:           rtw_vht_enable:int
parm:           rtw_vht_rx_mcs_map:VHT RX MCS map (uint)
parm:           rtw_rf_config:int
parm:           rtw_country_code:The default country code (in alpha2) (charp)
parm:           rtw_channel_plan:The default chplan ID when rtw_alpha2 is not specified or valid (int)
parm:           rtw_excl_chs:exclusive channel array (array of uint)
parm:           rtw_qos_opt_enable:int
parm:           ifname:The default name to allocate for first interface (charp)
parm:           if2name:The default name to allocate for second interface (charp)
parm:           rtw_wowlan_sta_mix_mode:int
parm:           rtw_pwrtrim_enable:int
parm:           rtw_initmac:charp
parm:           rtw_special_rf_path:int
parm:           rtw_chip_version:int
parm:           rtw_rfintfs:int
parm:           rtw_lbkmode:int
parm:           rtw_network_mode:int
parm:           rtw_channel:int
parm:           rtw_mp_mode:int
parm:           rtw_wmm_enable:int
parm:           rtw_vrtl_carrier_sense:int
parm:           rtw_vcs_type:int
parm:           rtw_busy_thresh:int
parm:           rtw_ht_enable:int
parm:           rtw_bw_mode:int
parm:           rtw_ampdu_enable:int
parm:           rtw_rx_stbc:int
parm:           rtw_rx_ampdu_amsdu:int
parm:           rtw_tx_ampdu_amsdu:int
parm:           rtw_beamform_cap:int
parm:           rtw_lowrate_two_xmit:int
parm:           rtw_power_mgnt:int
parm:           rtw_smart_ps:int
parm:           rtw_low_power:int
parm:           rtw_wifi_spec:int
parm:           rtw_full_ch_in_p2p_handshake:int
parm:           rtw_antdiv_cfg:int
parm:           rtw_antdiv_type:int
parm:           rtw_drv_ant_band_switch:int
parm:           rtw_single_ant_path:int
parm:           rtw_switch_usb_mode:int
parm:           rtw_enusbss:int
parm:           rtw_hwpdn_mode:int
parm:           rtw_hwpwrp_detect:int
parm:           rtw_hw_wps_pbc:int
parm:           rtw_check_hw_status:int
parm:           rtw_led_ctrl:Led Control: 0=Always off, 1=Normal blink, 2=Always on (int)
parm:           rtw_max_roaming_times:The max roaming times to try (uint)
parm:           rtw_mc2u_disable:int
parm:           rtw_notch_filter:0:Disable, 1:Enable, 2:Enable only for P2P (uint)
parm:           rtw_hiq_filter:0:allow all, 1:allow special, 2:deny all (uint)
parm:           rtw_adaptivity_en:0:disable, 1:enable (uint)
parm:           rtw_adaptivity_mode:0:normal, 1:carrier sense (uint)
parm:           rtw_adaptivity_th_l2h_ini:th_l2h_ini for Adaptivity (int)
parm:           rtw_adaptivity_th_edcca_hl_diff:th_edcca_hl_diff for Adaptivity (int)
parm:           rtw_amplifier_type_2g:BIT3:2G ext-PA, BIT4:2G ext-LNA (uint)
parm:           rtw_amplifier_type_5g:BIT6:5G ext-PA, BIT7:5G ext-LNA (uint)
parm:           rtw_RFE_type:default init value:64 (uint)
parm:           rtw_powertracking_type:default init value:64 (uint)
parm:           rtw_GLNA_type:default init value:0 (uint)
parm:           rtw_TxBBSwing_2G:default init value:0xFF (uint)
parm:           rtw_TxBBSwing_5G:default init value:0xFF (uint)
parm:           rtw_OffEfuseMask:default open Efuse Mask value:0 (uint)
parm:           rtw_FileMaskEfuse:default drv Mask Efuse value:0 (uint)
parm:           rtw_rxgain_offset_2g:default RF Gain 2G Offset value:0 (uint)
parm:           rtw_rxgain_offset_5gl:default RF Gain 5GL Offset value:0 (uint)
parm:           rtw_rxgain_offset_5gh:uint
parm:           rtw_rxgain_offset_5gm:default RF Gain 5GM Offset value:0 (uint)
parm:           rtw_pll_ref_clk_sel:force pll_ref_clk_sel, 0xF:use autoload value (uint)
parm:           rtw_tx_pwr_by_rate:0:Disable, 1:Enable, 2: Depend on efuse (int)
parm:           rtw_tx_pwr_lmt_enable:0:Disable, 1:Enable, 2: Depend on efuse (int)
parm:           rtw_target_tx_pwr_2g_a:2.4G target tx power (unit:dBm) of RF path A for each rate section, should match the real calibrate power, -1: undefined (array of int)
parm:           rtw_target_tx_pwr_2g_b:2.4G target tx power (unit:dBm) of RF path B for each rate section, should match the real calibrate power, -1: undefined (array of int)
parm:           rtw_target_tx_pwr_2g_c:2.4G target tx power (unit:dBm) of RF path C for each rate section, should match the real calibrate power, -1: undefined (array of int)
parm:           rtw_target_tx_pwr_2g_d:2.4G target tx power (unit:dBm) of RF path D for each rate section, should match the real calibrate power, -1: undefined (array of int)
parm:           rtw_target_tx_pwr_5g_a:5G target tx power (unit:dBm) of RF path A for each rate section, should match the real calibrate power, -1: undefined (array of int)
parm:           rtw_target_tx_pwr_5g_b:5G target tx power (unit:dBm) of RF path B for each rate section, should match the real calibrate power, -1: undefined (array of int)
parm:           rtw_target_tx_pwr_5g_c:5G target tx power (unit:dBm) of RF path C for each rate section, should match the real calibrate power, -1: undefined (array of int)
parm:           rtw_target_tx_pwr_5g_d:5G target tx power (unit:dBm) of RF path D for each rate section, should match the real calibrate power, -1: undefined (array of int)
parm:           rtw_tsf_update_pause_factor:num of bcn intervals to stay TSF update pause status (int)
parm:           rtw_tsf_update_restore_factor:num of bcn intervals to stay TSF update restore status (int)
parm:           rtw_phy_file_path:The path of phy parameter (charp)
parm:           rtw_load_phy_file:PHY File Bit Map (int)
parm:           rtw_decrypt_phy_file:Enable Decrypt PHY File (int)
parm:           rtw_en_napi:int
parm:           rtw_en_gro:int
parm:           rtw_iqk_fw_offload:int
parm:           rtw_ch_switch_offload:int

 

 

1 hour ago, Talb T said:

What's wrong , please?

 

Google or forum search can reveal things https://forum.armbian.com/search/?q=vdso.lds&quick=1

 

Posted

thanks, Igor. You are right.

I installed the wifi adapter through sudo armbian-config and then wifi section, manage wireless networking,

And module is working now.

 

Anyway, Igor, even if I follow the workaround by nekozaki I'm stiil not able to build.

For my curiosity, is the workaround not worKing?

thanks

Posted
4 hours ago, Talb T said:

Anyway, Igor, even if I follow the workaround by nekozaki I'm stiil not able to build.

 

This you will need to ask him.

 

4 hours ago, Talb T said:

For my curiosity, is the workaround not worKing?


I am afraid, but I can't give you that answer without spending a day / hours on the problem. You will need to invest your own time to satisfy curiosity or just enjoy working WiFi.

Posted (edited)

ok, Igor, thanks a lot. Now wifi is working.

I have a wifi odroid adapter and wanted to check/reuse it if working too on the new Orange PI 5 board.

After the positive check I came back to the faster ethernet connection. 🙂

 

For the nekozaki's workaround I will investigate deeper. Anyway, if i'm correct, in the next armbian image with OrangePi5 the kernel vdso issue should be solved. Correct?

thanks

 

 

 

 

Edited by Talb T
Posted
3 hours ago, Talb T said:

in the next armbian image with OrangePi5 the kernel vdso issue should be solved


I already lost a day on this problem and I will never return to it as my next availability for pro bono action for this case is in several years.

 

3 hours ago, Talb T said:

Correct?

 

There are thousands of other issues https://armbian.atlassian.net/jira/dashboards/10103 (average resolving time is 450 days, because there are just a few of people that donates their time and we can't expand because of no support from your side) not just the one that hurts you.  If you didn't resolve and submit a fix, then bug is probably still there but it is possible (miracle) that this problem was solved outside of this ecosystem, by Rockchip engineers that are also dealing with this particular kernel. Most of other Linux projects are nothing better then our end users. They just re-sell our work under different name and also complaining on bugs. Just like you. They are very well aware how expensive fixing bugs is. Try working for community projects full time. Then do this for several months straight ...

Posted (edited)

Hi Igor,

 

I was not pushing. And not pushing you! 🙂

Sorry for the misleading.

 

I was asking only info. I was not aware about you are a sw donator at Armbian for Orange PI board. 

For your info, I understand the strong effort of sw donators. Since not able in sw development, I already donated money to Armbian (I used Armbian high quality OS for my previous board: odroid xu4) and Zoneminder (a suirvellance tool I'm using) . Even if I didn't ask them for anything.

 

And it's true also in this case: I was not pushing/asking for a solution, but, since I saw It's a known issue, I was asking if it will be resolved with the release of the new kernel.

In any case I appreciated your very fast answer. And you were helpful: I understood the last kernel already have compiled drive for RTL8811AU and used it!

thanks

Edited by Talb T

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