Stability of RockPro64


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Hi,

 

I am looking at investing in a RockPro64 NAS setup using the Pine64 Desktop casing and other necessary accessories. I'm hoping to run OpenMediaVault on it and have 2 3.5" HDDs attached. The entire setup would be configured to be a backup of my operational NAS (Helios4) in a different location (i.e. different room of the house).

 

My reading of the forum and the armbian download section has me a bit confused. The download section indicates that the board is supported, but the forum indicates it's a WIP.

Just trying to understand the status/stability of the board for what I'm planning on using it for and whether it would be a good investment or a waste of money.

 

Also wondering whether this post regarding updating the CPU governor is related -  and will be a benefit - to the RockPro64 as both the NanoPi M4 and RockPro64 share the same SoC RK3399.

 

Thanks :)

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16 minutes ago, soerenderfor said:

OMV works fine, but there can be some probs with sata cards. 

Are there known SATA cards that should be avoided? Are you using the one from the Pine64 store?

Did you need to make any adjustments to the CPU governor?

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@wolf7250 - here you go, here is a couple i got home.

Delock 4 port SATA PCI Express Card - Marvell 88SE9215 - Works out of the box.
 

StarTech.com 4 Port PCI Express SATA III 6Gbps RAID Controller Card with Heatsink (PCIe SATA 3 Controller Adapter (PEXSAT34RH), Styreenhed til lagring (RAID), 4 Kanal, SATA 6Gb/s lavprofil, 600 MBps, RAID 0, 1, 10, JBOD, PCIe 2.0 x2, for P/N: ST521PMINT - Marvell 88SE9230) - Some problems. But i did mange to get it working.

DeLOCK - Lagringskontrol - SATA 6Gb/s - 600 MBps - RAID 0, 1, 10 - PCIe 2.0 x4 (Producent: DeLOCK | Model-nr.: DEL-89395 - Marvell 88SE9215) - Some probs. But did mange to get it working.

Ziyituod PCIe SATA Card, 4 Port (SA3014 - Marvell 9215) Works out of the box.

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On 8/7/2020 at 4:53 PM, soerenderfor said:

With new kernels the fan spins at "255" always

Ahh I didn't initially understand what you meant when you said this. But doing some research "255" refers to the PWM settings, correct? So with the new kernel if the fan spins always at "255" that means it always spins at it's maximum RPM correct?

 

On 8/8/2020 at 7:30 AM, soerenderfor said:

I did cut a bigger hole in the orginal pine nas case, and fitted a 92mm Noctua fan

OK. So Noctua fans appear to be very well respected and reviewed, and very high quality. The Pine64 case allows for an 80mm fan (which is also what they sell on their website). Did you feel that this was not big enough? I see that I could buy an 80mm Noctua fan and not need to cut a bigger hole in the NAS case.....

On 8/8/2020 at 7:30 AM, soerenderfor said:

Complete silent, runs with the valuve "170" but as i say it is not standard fan

So did you create a new PWM ramp for which the maximum was 170 (i.e 0 to 170)? Would I be correct in understanding that this would set the maximum fan speed at 66.66% of the maximum RPM?

 

Finally, from what I've found it seems as though all Noctua fans use a 3/4 pin connector. Whereas the RockPro64 header for the PWM fan is only 2-pin. How did you get around that?

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20 hours ago, wolf7250 said:

Ahh I didn't initially understand what you meant when you said this. But doing some research "255" refers to the PWM settings, correct? So with the new kernel if the fan spins always at "255" that means it always spins at it's maximum RPM correct?

Yes, "0" off and "255" full speed. You can change anything inbetween.

 

20 hours ago, wolf7250 said:

OK. So Noctua fans appear to be very well respected and reviewed, and very high quality. The Pine64 case allows for an 80mm fan (which is also what they sell on their website). Did you feel that this was not big enough? I see that I could buy an 80mm Noctua fan and not need to cut a bigger hole in the NAS case.....

I have 4 disk in the nas case, the 80mm noctua i did have installed before it was enough to cool it down, CPU temp around 40degress.  The orginal 80mm fan that "belongs" to the case is only around 10mm in thickness, and the noctua is 25mm. So to fit in the small space 90degree sata power cables is a very great idea. But you can fit normal sata power cables with some "violence" ;-)
 

 

20 hours ago, wolf7250 said:

So did you create a new PWM ramp for which the maximum was 170 (i.e 0 to 170)? Would I be correct in understanding that this would set the maximum fan speed at 66.66% of the maximum RPM?

No, I like always on, so i did find a number to fit my demands. But many fan scripts is avaible, but you have to fit it the fan controller (FAN name)

 

20 hours ago, wolf7250 said:

 

Finally, from what I've found it seems as though all Noctua fans use a 3/4 pin connector. Whereas the RockPro64 header for the PWM fan is only 2-pin. How did you get around that?

Just cut the cables and fit the plus and minus wire to the same cables at the fan. Very easy. Hope it was a little help, just ask again if there is something i can help with. Thanks.
The reason i did fit a 92mm noctua in the case was to get it silent, nothing else.

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11 hours ago, soerenderfor said:

Hope it was a little help, just ask again if there is something i can help with

You have been an enormous help! Thank you.

I'll ask one more question if that's OK?

 

I notice that you mentioned you have 4 HDDs in the case, and the PCI-e Adapter you helped me with has 4 SATA connections. The power supply on the Pine64 store is 12V 5A. I'm pretty sure this is not powerful enough to power both the RockPro64 and 4 x 3.5" HDDs as the power supply for my Helios4 is 12V 8A. How are you powering your 4 HDDs and the board? How do I know how much and what sort of power supply I would need?

 

Thanks again :)

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@wolf7250 - Just so you know, if you plan to use that NAS case from pine. In that case there is only room for 2x 3.5" and 2x 2.5". But back to your question, i have found a universal PSU from 7.5volt to 22.5volt and 10amp, so i did just use that one. 

Use 12V always to ROCKPRO64, and around (8A on the safe side) or so to power it all.

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9 minutes ago, soerenderfor said:

Just so you know, if you plan to use that NAS case from pine. In that case there is only room for 2x 3.5" and 2x 2.5"

Yep, thanks. I knew that. It was more a question for down the track if I decided to use an old PC case or something to allow me to have more HDDs.

 

11 minutes ago, soerenderfor said:

Use 12V always to ROCKPRO64, and around (8A on the safe side) or so to power it all.

So the DC out for the SATA drives on the board can power 4x3.5" drives if needed if it has a 12V 8A PSU? You would just need a 4 way splitter to go from the one DC output to the 4 drives correct?

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3 minutes ago, wolf7250 said:

So the DC out for the SATA drives on the board can power 4x3.5" drives if needed if it has a 12V 8A PSU? You would just need a 4 way splitter to go from the one DC output to the 4 drives correct?

Did you buy the sata power cable from pine also? It splits the power into 2 sata cables and on both mount a splitter. Or you can like you say just split one cable to 4 with a sata splitter. I do power my rockpro64 with 4hdd in that way with a 12v 10a psu. It works like charm, no problem (but 8A is enough).

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I have been running the rockpro64 as a NAS for over a year now - since somewhere around 6 months after it's release. During it's time as a NAS, I have only had downtime due to maintenance on the power system it runs on (runs on a 12v solar system). I run a pair of USB Seagate 4TB Expansion HDDs (plus another pair I periodically network connect for offline backups), both shared out via minidlna and samba. It's running one of the ayufan-OMV images, so is still on OMV4.

 

I'm waiting to see if the 20.08 refresh of the images will bump the stable kernel for debian from 4.x to 5.x, and then I will migrate to Armbian + OMV5. I did try bumping the Buster 'stable' image kernel from 4.4 to 5.4 via `armbian-config` on a second rockpro64, but that resulted in what appears to be a no-boot scenario (no HDMI, no network), so I won't be trying that again in a hurry.

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