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Erica

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I've spent the entire morning trying to boot armbian on a vim 3 basic. 

It won't boot from sdcard. 

I erased the emmc with krescue, no change except now it doesn't boot anything, except the krescue sdcard.

I put the armbian image on a USB stick and tried to flash it to emmc

With krescue but krescue says it's an invalid vim 3 image. 

I verified the Sha and I also tried using the extracted dot img file. Which isn't recognized by krescue. 

 

How do I boot an sdcard or flash the emmc

When none of these things work?

The only thing that boots now is the krescue sdcard. 

 

What am I doing incorrectly?  What else can I try? 

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Erica

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So I've tried booting both jammy

Currents from SD card. Neither work. 

I tried installing them to emmc with krescue and it says they are unsuitable for this board. 

 

I booted and installed manjaro from/on sdcard with no problems. 

 

I checked the Sha of both jammy images and both match up. 

I don't know what is going on. But manjaro boots and armbian doesn't. 

 

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Erica

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Yes those are the exact images I used. 

I erased the emmc with krescue to get rid of Android.  

 

I did a zcat | dd to write the images to sdcard, the same way I did manjaro.  I let them sit for a very long time. 

Manjaro and krescue come right up. 

 

I also copied them to a usb stick as is for krescue to try to install them. 

Krescue says the images are unsuitable. I don't know why. 

I didn't try that with manjaro yet. 

 

The board is a vim 3 basic with 4g. Nothing special. Just plugged it in. 

Not even in a case yet. 

 

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NicoD

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I was able to recreate the problem when having Android on the eMMC.
The new way Igor used didn't work for me. Used krescue to format eMMC and SPI. But then it didn't boot at all with the latest Armbian image.
The boot loop.
I then used OOWOW to install Ubuntu to the eMMC. And with Ubuntu on eMMC you can boot the latest Armbian image from SD and install to eMMC.

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balbes150

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Igor asked me to help you with the launch of Armbian. Show the UART startup log in two states - Armbian start from SD card and kreskue start from SD card. IMHo kreskue is a bad tool and I would not advise using it, everything can be done without it.

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@balbes150 What configuration you want the output from? Non-working Armbian with Android on eMMC or working with Ubuntu on eMMC? 
Output of Armbian on SD with Ubuntu on eMMC, so working Armbian.
 

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Here boot with krescue on sd with Ubuntu on eMMC : Edit : it was OOWOW and not krescue, had both sd-cards and saw the files for oowow with rescue...
 

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If you want non-working Armbian with Android or with cleared eMMC + SPI, let me know.
There's also no HDMI-audio but a dummy output. I'd like to see that fixed too if possible. Cheers.

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NicoD

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So that wasn't krescue but oowow.
Here is krescue with Ubuntu on eMMC
 

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balbes150

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  On 6/22/2023 at 6:46 PM, NicoD said:

What configuration you want the output from?

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If possible, I am interested in the Armbian startup log from the SD card with the VIM3 in its normal state, as it arrives to users upon purchase (i.e. the default factory state of SPI\eMMC).

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NicoD

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@balbes150So I installed Android on eMMC. I think that's how it's shipped. But I'm having a very hard time to read out uart because it goes way too fast and forgets the top because too much info. I can show you the top of it and the last, but there's a whole part missing.
The top, so Armbian SD non-working with Android on eMMC. Boots into Android...

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And the last part...
 

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Booting krescue from sd-card with Android on eMMC.
 

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If I find out how to get the whole output then I'll update it. I really hate uart...

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balbes150

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  On 6/23/2023 at 10:42 AM, NicoD said:

So I installed Android on eMMC. I think that's how it's shipped. But I'm having a very hard time to read out uart because it goes way too fast and forgets the top because too much info. I can show you the top of it and the last, but there's a whole part missing

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I only need the output of the u-boot operation, before the kernel starts running Android. You can easily "limit" the desired output - when the kernel startup lines start (line "Start kernel ..."), just turn off the power. :) I also need the same log to run Armbian from an Sd card.

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@balbes150 I've got the full output of Armbian on SD and Android on eMMC and it runs Android. I hope that's all you need.
 

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@balbes150 This is armbian on sd with empty eMMC and SPI. Boot loop.
 

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NicoD

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  On 6/24/2023 at 2:07 PM, balbes150 said:

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/rYwlbXIDWg1gvQ

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That works. 
Empty eMMC and empty SPI with latest Armbian on SD :
 

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I will now install Android on eMMC and see if that also boots. Thank you.

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balbes150

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  On 6/24/2023 at 5:41 PM, NicoD said:

Also works with Android on the eMMC

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Can you check the installation on eMMC and show the startup log UART from eMMC, after installing Armbian on eMMC on the original Android ? To install, use armbian-install.

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balbes150

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  On 6/22/2023 at 6:46 PM, NicoD said:

There's also no HDMI-audio but a dummy output. I'd like to see that fixed too if possible. Cheers.

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To fix the sound, need to check the kernel. Is there a version of the image where the sound worked?

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NicoD

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@balbes150 Unable to install to eMMC. 
"Partition too small. Needed: 5124 MB Available: MB"
I've formatted the eMMC and created a partition but still the same. The eMMC is 16GB, so should be enough.

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balbes150

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  On 6/26/2023 at 10:31 AM, NicoD said:

Unable to install to eMMC. 

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What size SD card do you use? Which installation option do you choose ? Which partition table did you use (msdos or gpt) for eMMC? Try to create an MS DOS table and not create any partitions on eMMC. This error is another confirmation that the images from the MAIN branch are useless junk.

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NicoD

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  On 6/26/2023 at 11:24 AM, balbes150 said:

What size SD card do you use? 

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64GB sd but only 5GB is needed.  16GB eMMC
 

  On 6/26/2023 at 11:24 AM, balbes150 said:

Which installation option do you choose ?

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Boot from eMMC system on eMMC

It now works after installing Ubuntu 22.04 with OOWOW on eMMC and then boot Armbian from sd and do armbian-install to eMMC. 
But it doesn't boot the image from eMMC and doesn't boot the sd-card anymore either with Armbian +  boot.ini file on.

I can still boot the OOWOW sd-card. Will try again to install Ubuntu, boot armbian from sd, delete partition on eMMC and create a MS DOS table and no partition...

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NicoD

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@balbes150 I now was able to install Armbian on eMMC from sd-card with Ubuntu 22.04 on eMMC.
But after the install it doesn't boot from eMMC. Boot-loop.
Here the output :
 

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