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@chwe I've read your post before souper , I didn't read the whole story ...
During souper, watching TV, the same subject comes there in the news ...
In summary from Canadian's news, this chinese scientist is braking ethic rules a lot, the reportage says that if he would do what it did in Canada, he could ended-up with 10 years of prison.
I hope those "newly baken childs" won't become "monsters" since "crisp" isn't safe at all !

or frozen for cryonics... Well, we may should care sometimes a bit more.. We got this nice little ball with a thin little film of atmosphere for a limited time - means basically we rented it.. Normally you should give back rented stuff in a good shape and don't fuck it up. Not sure if humans are trusted renters... (yep there's a bit of sarcasm in it)
 
It's clear, only the experiment can tell us if those researchers assumptions work. Question is, are those assumptions worth to start such an experiment? Experiments were partly made on animals, for me it was obvious that the 'ultimate goal' will then be to  go to humans as well. Do I think it's a god idea? I assume I didn't thought long enough about it but I tend to say no at all. Genetics is a lottery.. you get it partly from your mother, partly from your father, the whole cocktail is mixed up and then you've to deal with what you got. With such a modification there's a third party involved which might be right or completely wrong with his or her assumptions what should be beneficial for you. There are genetic combinations which don't fit 'well'. E.g. couples with enhanced chances that their kids won't be healthy. Is it fair? I don't think so. Should we try to 'fix' it? I don't think so either... Well, it's easy to say that as long as you're not affected (or at least not knowingly affected) by such a 'mismatch'.
But 'playing' with life before it was even born just sounds wrong to me.
Even a baby can partly express itself if it agrees on certain actions you take as parents. A cell can't - it dies if you messed the cell up too much but otherwise there's no way for the cell to say no to your modification. Okay, there are a few 'repair mechanisms' but I would assume that such a big modification can't be 'reverted' by the cells.
 
[this part is 'a bit' speculative]
At the moment there's only the statement from the researcher claiming what he did, but as far as I followed the news, there's no proof that he actually did it. With proof I mean independent check of his research. It could also be a 'bad joke' - means he just claims he did it. It might need some time until the situation is more clear. In case they did it, I hope the Chinese government may overthink their stand point on genetics. Their laws allows much more than western countries accept but even there, such an experiment was never approved and I assume if the researcher would apply for such an experiment it would be rejected. But their 'more open' standpoint on genetic modification ended in an atmosphere where someone thought he could try it. Maybe they should make it more clear where the "red line" is so that such experiments don't happen again...
 

You can see it positive, but also negative. For example...
First these twins are human lab rats. We don't know enough of the process to ensure their health. Taking away that gen (that prevents HIV from attacking the system) makes them voulnerable to other diseases. We know this from many people who don't have this gen. But those people got so on a natural way.
Second. Is this something what will devide the world a lot more? People who can affort it will modify their baby's in their benefit. This will make them "better" than "normal" people, and they may believe that too. We all know what happens when people think they are better than others.
Third. Should we even do this? Don't we first need to find out what the effect will be on the long term. These changes will also be present in their children. They have children with others also with modified dna. We don't know how these will mix. What will become of them? Will they still be human?
What with the mistakes the gen programmers will make? We all know programmers or far from perfect.

Just a thought.
It's one person making the choice for the world to do this. Now the genie is out of the bottle. The debate has gotten useless.
I don't care much, too old to be able to profit from it(I'm born since a while). And by the time there could be problems because of it I'll be sleeping under the ground.
Cheers.

Well I linked the top product, but you can find all other (cheaper) variants of it.

@Igor
 
I decided to go back to the question of integrating the build options for TV boxes into the overall git. Alternatively, at the first stage, you can make an additional branch (for example, "tv-box") and put all the code from my git "Build-Armbian/master" into it (with minimal fixes author, etc.). I am ready to support a set of basic images (which I am currently releasing) for a number of models that I have in stock (Khadas VIM\VIM2\EDGE , MVR9 etc).
 
If there are other options - I am ready to discuss them.

Update: I switched kernels from armbian-configi after reading at some forums and aplay -l gave the device list. Started i3 and opened chrome, tested a youtube video and it was working automatically. 

To start the system enough to download, unzip, burn the image to the SD card. Connect the SD card to the EDGE and turn the power on.
The system starts automatically. Details on the initial setup of the running system can be found in these topics.
 
https://yadi.sk/d/ie_dx5x_w2xUIQ
 
https://mega.nz/#F!n1hihSKT!8kYublAPG4RtwSIBihOkVg
 
 

I got my EDGE this weekend. And in the coming days plans to start assembling and testing Armbian for Khadas EDGE.
 
By the way, according to Robert, this model plays well videos up to 4K on Ubuntu from Youtube.
https://forum.freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-support/rockchip-based-tv-players/rk3399-devices/733786-edge-rk3399-by-khadas-for-those-that-like-to-tinker?p=750851#post750851

Good news. I'm managed to find a variant of u-boot with which can run Linux from external media on EDGE. This is the important step for creating Armbian and other systems for Khadas EDGE. 
 
 
There are images from Ubuntu to write to eMMC and to run from external media. I tried a quick test image with LXDE, and it works. I recorded the image to an SD card, connected it to Khadas EDGE and when I turned on the power, the system started automatically. You do not need any manipulation with multi-boot, it is already by default, when you disable the SD card , automatically starts the regular Android from eMMC.  I tried the combined version of the launch LE, the system starts, but while the KODI interface does not start, there is something to work on .... 

Managed to get a massive ear bleeding screech out of the audio jack after flipping bits around to enable/disable the microphone inputs folled by toggling rt5651 asrc enable/disable in the alsa mixer.  Trying to hone in now on how to get audio without mic feedback.  On the right track at least.

Copper shims make about 15C difference :-)

It is a research program, one of our professors from TU Muenchen cooperates with the Canadians (who operate the sub sea infrastructure).
The goal of this setup was to measure water quality in North Pacific (more specific, this special site) by deploying some light emitters and light detectors on two strings.
We want to learn about bioluminescence and radioactivity induced light, which both are kind of noise for the measurements intended later.
Let's say it like this: it's dark there, really, you have a perfect stable temperature, and it's easier to get things there (and back again) than going for deep holes in ice.
 
Moreover, we had to learn all necessary things about sub sea technics in a short period of time, including deployment technis (thanks to one guy supporting us, we made the job).
 
The setup is still operational (which I call success), and with some luck we will extend it with a third string next year, including some Odroid C2 based setups and (as we go for real fibre that time instead of good ol' copper lines) some more sophisticated electronics.
 
As soon as our paper is published, I can give more details (while I "just" did the electronics, there will be some more physics included )

Hi guys,
some months ago I implemented an Odroid C2 as readout controller for a scientific instrument.
Lot of people were kind and helped me with some problems with Armbian, especially eMMC and PWM.
 
Today, finally, we managed to have our instrument (two strings with several Odroid C2 and other stuff) deployed.
It is sitting now at 2628m depth in the Pacific Ocean, and will go operational the next days.
 
Here we are... I think I can announce the deepest Odroid so far (cry loud if I'm wrong :) )
In the picture you just can see the Titanium housing with two glass covers attached to the string.
 
Again, thanks for the fish :)
 
Michael

Here's a screen shot of the load presented to Armbian_5.65_Nanopim4_Ubuntu_bionic_default_4.4.162_desktop where I can run the cores at a higher level than on friendlydesktop-bionic-4.4-arm64-20180921. 

Thanks for the tips  The load is from BOINC with tasks from seti@home
Installing BOINC on Ubuntu
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Ubuntu
 

Hi all,
 
a new RK3399 board appeared, it is called RockPi4
 
I have two of these beasts here already, and they works nicely - I like the small details about it (nice eMMC fixture, all heat plates on the bottom side for simple cooling, and an M.2 PICe slot for my second network card
Do you see any chance to get Armbian working on that beast, and if so, what can *I* do (with my limited experience in kernel programming)?
Debian is working on it already, in case you need more specific information please let me know.
 
Any help is appreciated.
 
So far, Michael
 

ok 
I did it with armbian's build system, use userspace kernel config 
right now , kind of knowing armbian's build system 
btw
How to add board into armbian system?
I would like see gameshell board in armbian ,armbian is the best linux I've ever seen in linux world
 
it would be great to see gameshell board in armbian
 

 

I received a Drok Model UM25 tester, and started checking the voltage and amperage used.  I noticed that the NanoPi M4 when running at between 98% and 100% on all 6 cores draws a little over 5.1V and between 1.9A to 2.2A,  This is getting close to the maximum of 5A and 2.5A that the cable, (Anker Powerline+ II USB-C to USB-A 2.0 Cable (3ft)), and power supply, (Anker 60W 10-Port USB Wall Charger), are rated.
I shut down the 7 Raspberry PI 3B + devices also on the power supply and watched the NanoPi M4 use over 5.3V and 2.59A then reboot.
I looked up the specs for the NanoPi M4, it needs 5V 3A
The RaspberryPi 3B+ needs 5V 2.5A, (which is where the power supply and cables I am using are rated)
I ordered a 5V 4A power supply and a cable rated for 4A.
Until they arrive I an running the NanoPi M4 at 1.42GHz and 1.80GHz using the following commands
cpufreq-set -c0 -u1.42GHz
cpufreq-set -c1 -u1.42GHz
cpufreq-set -c2 -u1.42GHz
cpufreq-set -c3 -u1.42GHz
cpufreq-set -c4 -u1.80GHz
cpufreq-set -c5 -u1.80GHz
It is now using 5.2V between 1.61A to 1.82A and does not reboot and the temp is showing 53C
 

Where are you from? Odroid`s are easy to get. There`s a European sell point, an American, Korean, Australian. ...
https://www.odroid.co.uk/
https://ameridroid.com/
https://www.hardkernel.com/main/shop/good_list.php?lang=en
http://auseparts.com.au/index.php?route=product/category&path=97
 
The Tinker Board has got many faults. My first one broke, components just fell of. It`s powerhungry and overheats too quickly what makes the use of a fan needed. It does have good youtube and ok environment.
The Libre Computer Board ROC-RK3328-CC should be ok. I did not try it yet. I should look into getting some of their boards. I don`t know of the youtube playback on that. Could be awful,could be good.

The NanoPi M4 is awesome. It`s future proof with it`s USB3, gigabit ethernet, great wifi on-board, eMMC, 6-cores, .. I`ve never had a board that does everything so well from the start. Check my youtube for that one.
Cheers

Under 20$
the Raspberry Pi Zero W for 10$. It's very slow with only 1 core at 1Ghz. You can watch youtube with kiosk browser. And surf, very slowly.
The Banana Pi M2 Zero for 20$. A lot faster. 4x1.2Ghz. You need a good heatsink for it or it overheats constantly. Not very good video playback.
For 25$ the Rock64. Faster, better, but no wifi on-board.
A raspberry pi 3b+ is 35$ and again a bit better.
For your use case an Odroid C2 is perfect. Good Youtube playback, fast, doesn't overheat, ... That's about 50$

Those or the ones I have, and I can recommend. But for 20$ you will not get much.
You need to know that many sbc's don't have hardware acceleration for video playback in browsers. So expect choppy and low resolution video with most. The Odroid C2 does this best in Linux.
Also if a board only has 512MB ram then you want be able to open many tabs.

FriendlyArm also has got some interesting cheap boards.

I review sbc's on their desktop capabilities. Of all those I've got a video, except the C2.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpv7NFr0-9AB5xoklh3Snhg

Works in firefox. Even in Armbian. I don't know how. But it does. But Firefox does suck for surfing.
For that I use Vivaldi. There 1/3 lost frames in 1080p Youtube. Chromium 2/3 lost frames. Firefox 0 frames lost. All video works perfect. I even use it as video player on the NanoPi M4.
For me the NanoPi M4 is the perfect 2nd desktop pc. It's very fast. It's got an amazing heatsink. It's stable, haven't had 1 crash with it in hundreds of hours use. I've tried many different sbc's on there desktop capabillity's. The Odroid C2 was the best until the NanoPi M4.
Tinker board does ok in video, but many things don't work. I've tried it again this week, and it even got worse. I need 3 different OS'es to be able to do everything.
To my knowledge not many others than the C2, tinker, rasp and RK3399 have HW acc in Linux. The Raspberry sucks to work with.

https://ifixit.org/blog/11986/iphones-are-allergic-to-helium/
 
LMAO, clowns and scientists shouldn't have an iPhone.
Background, to reduce the footprint, the quatz is replaced by an MEMS timing oscillators instead of a quartz. If this thingie gets now flushed with Helium, the MEMS micro-mechanics doesn't work properly anymore and the iPhone crashes.. Only solution:
 
 
Edit: might be interesting what happens when you flush your iPhone with Argon.. (heavier than air) Someone has one spare? I can test it..

Works in firefox. Even in Armbian. I don't know how. But it does. But Firefox does suck for surfing.
For that I use Vivaldi. There 1/3 lost frames in 1080p Youtube. Chromium 2/3 lost frames. Firefox 0 frames lost. All video works perfect. I even use it as video player on the NanoPi M4.
For me the NanoPi M4 is the perfect 2nd desktop pc. It's very fast. It's got an amazing heatsink. It's stable, haven't had 1 crash with it in hundreds of hours use. I've tried many different sbc's on there desktop capabillity's. The Odroid C2 was the best until the NanoPi M4.
Tinker board does ok in video, but many things don't work. I've tried it again this week, and it even got worse. I need 3 different OS'es to be able to do everything.
To my knowledge not many others than the C2, tinker, rasp and RK3399 have HW acc in Linux. The Raspberry sucks to work with.

I`ve got exactly the same adapter and it works immediatly here.
Armbian Bionic kernel 4.4.162-rockchip.
Are you using the volume control? Here it finds the adapter and puts the sound thru the moment I connect.