balbes150

If you are a moderator, you need to be ready to "put in place" those who do not recognize the rules and do not react to their negativity. The moderator's position is initially conflicted, you need to be prepared to reasonably ignore the negative from those who are not happy.

A full time hobby then... 

To activate the multiload on Wetek , you need to use additional steps, they are indicated at the beginning of this topic and in the topic about LE.  I remind you that multi-boot activation is only possible from the SD card, and subsequent work is already possible from any SD or USB media. It is important to distinguish between images with the old DTB configuration system and the new one, since they have different configuration principles.
 
 
https://forum.libreelec.tv/thread/1506-s812-miii-plus-2gb-16gb-emmc/

I am sure @balbes150 was not pointing toward your signature. It's an error in communication which is a daily problem and will not go away. This is online forum, not a chat in person.
 
Our project moves on its own speed. It moves slow. It moves according with the resources we have and will never be a representation of what we as users want. It moves slow.
 
Once someone comes with a technical questions, days, weeks or months can go by before things are solved. That's the reality we should be accept and communicate. Nobody can demands services. I can't demand services from you. I can ask you to do things rather this or that way. And hope you understand not insisting going your way.
 
I was working on one problem two days in a row, whole afternoon and produce one single commit. I need to be highly concentrated in that period otherwise I would never finish things. I can not go and deal with the forum or talk with people around in that time. That's why I asked for help here. This is how I operate and its pretty usual for others as well. While nobody else has so many things. I have to do other stuff for weeks without doing anything in term of moderating forum, dealing with day to day activities. That's why I need your help.

Not to remove spam in first place, because that is mainly done automatically. But to deal with users/us doing mistakes. I am user, you are user. You have a possibility to adjust it, like me. But that's it. We are a community interested to play with gadgets, secure some level of support ... Forum shell no be a place for taking care of users wishes. Its not possible to afford this kind of services. I can't reply on all question, nor deal with all problems. It would take me 24h. Remember that I also receive emails and PM which I don't even answer. In that case I would need 3 days per day.

Entire project is based on best effort principle - there are just a few people that do something about for the product, somebody sold it to you. ASUS drop support for this product years ago. They don't do absolutely nothing, only we do, what we do. We do 20-30-50h per day, which is insane number. ASUS never gave us not a singler dollar for wasting our time for their product and their users. Users contribution secure free download. That's it.
 
If we need to loose few more hours for forum, means only less for doing the part you as an Armbian user are interested. Dealing more with never satisfied people can only drag us away from things we(you) would like to do - make this cheap hardware usable.

We need your help, to not get crazy dealing every day with people that have no clue how much work is behind this. And still we allow people to dream. Nobody will pick that up since its totally out of the project scope and budget. I asks myself every day - shell I fix a problem, from never ending list, or shell I rather play with my kids. In case we stop developing, there will be no need to support us.
 

I have "Hide all signatures". Perhaps this is just admin feature by default. Check. Otherwise we have to check if this can be enabled for all.
 
@Vanitarium Adjusting, not removing. There are users out there with longer, some might have flashy ones and this can't be changed over the night. But we shell try.
 
Edit: https://forum.armbian.com/settings/?area=signature

Even forum have an option to disable signatures for logged users, I welcome this idea. We already removed lots of forum default distractions to be focused on the content. And I am sure it helps.

I took an image from NanoPC T4 (can take any for rk3399), recorded it on USB, configured DTB for RockPi-4b and voila, the system normally starts and works. That is, can have one universal image and run it on any model (do not have to build and place many different images on the site, which differ only in u-boot). If desired, can easily add the desired u-boot for a specific model and use the launch from SD\eMMC. 

I suggest adding a small patch for all u-boot for rk33xx. It allows to enable direct booting from USB media and significantly facilitates the use of RK33xx models for users. Allows you to easily launch any system from USB without the need for complex settings and manipulations with existing (main) systems on devices on SD or eMMC.
 
The entire path fits in two lines.
 
https://github.com/150balbes/Build-Armbian/blob/master/patch/u-boot/u-boot-arm-64/u-boot-0010-rk-usb-start.patch#L18

I suggest adding a small patch for all u-boot for rk33xx. It allows to enable direct booting from USB media and significantly facilitates the use of RK33xx models for users. Allows you to easily launch any system from USB without the need for complex settings and manipulations with existing (main) systems on devices on SD or eMMC.
 
The entire path fits in two lines.
 
https://github.com/150balbes/Build-Armbian/blob/master/patch/u-boot/u-boot-arm-64/u-boot-0010-rk-usb-start.patch#L18

is that?
congratulation to me,,, "my very first working self compiled u-boot"
ok sir, next, move on to the dtbs,,, will try to find which is working...
will continue using "Armbian_19.11.5_Arm-64_bionic_dev_5.5.0-rc2_2020017.img" which already write on my sdcard...
 
thank for the advice,,,

Now I paid attention to the numbers of visitors
I have never seen such an influx of guests ....
 
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Good news for RockPI 4B owners. This is an image with Armbian Bionic that includes support for running from USB. I checked this image with eMMC and SD card, running direct system startup from USB.
RockPI 4B does not have a very convenient placement of eMMC and SD connectors (if the NVMe module is connected on top, the loop from it overlaps the SD connector) so it is very difficult to test different systems. This image solves this problem. You can write any system to SD or eMMC and add a u-boot version that supports USB startup to the media (second link). Install the eMMC module or SD card and start the main system from them. When you need to quickly check or just start another system with USB, you simply connect the USB drive with the new system and it starts automatically when you turn on the power, turn off the USB and return to the normal system. If Radxa added one small patch to the source code for SPI, you can get a unique u-boot that supports direct launch from USB.
 
I recorded an Armbian image on eMMC and installed it on the Board, and now it is very convenient for me to quickly launch Libreelec from USB, I can use a universal image that does not depend on the availability of the necessary u-boot for the SD card, just configure the DTB correctly and voila, the system works completely with USB, without any additional steps. I connected the USB-I have LE, disabled USB and can immediately start Armbian.
 
Armbian Biomic
https://yadi.sk/d/M1hzFvNq7SpfmA
 
u-boot
https://yadi.sk/d/Se637oJkw54tfA

Hi Igor,
 
it would be an honour to help you on your project. I highly respect this forum and I'm really interested in ARM Technologies and Debian based distributions. My hat's off to the guys at Armbian to manage a huge project like this
Besides that I'm using SBCs for server solutions another attempt to get a deeper look into ARM technology was to deal with Banana Pi products on Amazon. This attempt cost me a lot of time and in the end I almost lost my company too. The product line of SinoVoip or Bipai Keji (HK) Limited got messier each month. After they fired my main supporter anything got worse. Since then I'm seeking for a new opportunity for my company to get a footstep into the ARM world. Especially the Armbian Forum.
 
I ceased the Amazon sales last week. Therefore I have a few hours left each week for a new project. So the time would be perfect to support an opensource project. If you're interested, I'd looking forward to get to know each other on the Armbian Forum.
What might interests you as well is that I worked as a first level supporter, almost for elder people, for 3 years. So I know my place if something gets out of control and people gets angry or confused.

The only problem I may see is if you need moderators with short reaction times or too much hours each day. I think I can handle work like once, maybe twice, a day for something around an hour or so - 12/5.

I'm looking forward to read you
Best Regards, _r9
 

Thank you! For this and for your help in the past.
 
 
I don't know if we are generally there yet, but forum ( and me) is getting out of control from time to time. That's my observation, which could be wrong. 
 
 
We need reinforcements, otherwise it will remain as is not so good. Hopefully more people will step up since it will be easier for everyone and the only way to keep forum readable, conduct some minimal policy and trying to improve forums on a long run. We want as flat structure as possible - being a moderator should be technical not a political function to limit our power games. Armbian is a technical forum - we don't delete content, but merge, move, reorganise. We ban bots that breaks automated spam machine, we don't ban people unless idiot level is obvious, but warn users when derived from https://forum.armbian.com/terms and https://forum.armbian.com/guidelines
 
Mistakes will be done on both sides. Which is normal and expected.

People that have moderators rights and are relatively active are: @NicoD @JMCC @chwe @TonyMac32 @balbes150 @lanefu 
 
Any objections, otherwise welcome!
 
Inactive: @pfeerick @Xalius @StuxNet (and will be removed shortly if no response)

Now I paid attention to the numbers of visitors
I have never seen such an influx of guests ....
 
14 Members, 0 Anonymous, 1208 Guests (See full list)

Now I paid attention to the numbers of visitors
I have never seen such an influx of guests ....
 
14 Members, 0 Anonymous, 1208 Guests (See full list)

Checked the ability to install and normal operation of the Linux system in eMMC on TV boxes with H6. The next step is to add the installation script to the eMMC for the armbian generic image. Details can be seen in this topic. 
 
https://forum.freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-support/allwinner-tv-players/793034-libreelec-and-armbian-for-allwinner-tv-box?p=794681#post794681

i think i got it stable finally - i built u-boot for it myself (v2020.01) and did the following:
loaderimage --pack --uboot ./u-boot-dtb.bin uboot.img 0x200000 # loaderimage on x86 dd if=uboot.img of=/dev/sdx seek=16384 the dd of trust.img as described above is required still. booted this way the box seems to run quite stable. i guess the u-boot i used before was setting a too advanced memory timing and my self build evb-rk3328 u-boot seems to have a more conservative memory timing which is ok for the box. i'll tomorrow upload a readymade dd'able u-boot here in case someone else wants to give it a try.
 
i also tried to dd the spl/tpl idbloader.img and u-boot.itb too following https://github.com/u-boot/u-boot/blob/master/doc/README.rockchip but it looks the box initally boots off the emmc and only uses the u-boot on the sd-card, so the spl/tpl on the sd card were ignored.
 
best wishes - hexdump

I have now launched the latest version of LE with dtb from RockPi4 on N6. Surprisingly, everything works including WiFi. I hope that when I switch to the next version of the kernel , the same thing will work in Armbian.  

hi @balbes150, i can confirm that your last image (1228) boots and runs well on a qplus h6 box ...
 
best wishes and get well into the new year - hexdump

It seems that running coreelec will alter the tv box and would require full firmware recovery in order to run armbian afterwards.

Version 20191228 with core 5.3 and 5.4. Proven to work on S905 and S905X.

In the new year, I plan to focus on improving and developing Armbian-TV  (Armbian-TV is a version that is based on the official Armbian, aimed at improved support for media capabilities and ease of use by ordinary users) support for the platforms Rockchip and Allwinner  (perhaps a few more platforms will be added that are not yet in use). To do this, I have already ordered several popular models based on rk3399 (NanoPC T4, RockPi 4, Renegade-Elite), in a complete set with obligatory Support of nvme carriers (I consider this support essentially important, for transition of TV boxes and SBS to the category of mini-PC, as highly effective and improved replacement of the usual PC). I'm plan to buy several more models on Allwinner (I'm still evaluating the capabilities of the selected models). 
I had plans to buy some more models based on rk3399 from other manufacturers, but there were problems with delivery and / or payment for my country.
 
If anyone has any suggestions for models that I should consider, I'm willing to listen to reasonable descriptions of the models.

In the new year, I plan to focus on improving and developing Armbian-TV  (Armbian-TV is a version that is based on the official Armbian, aimed at improved support for media capabilities and ease of use by ordinary users) support for the platforms Rockchip and Allwinner  (perhaps a few more platforms will be added that are not yet in use). To do this, I have already ordered several popular models based on rk3399 (NanoPC T4, RockPi 4, Renegade-Elite), in a complete set with obligatory Support of nvme carriers (I consider this support essentially important, for transition of TV boxes and SBS to the category of mini-PC, as highly effective and improved replacement of the usual PC). I'm plan to buy several more models on Allwinner (I'm still evaluating the capabilities of the selected models). 
I had plans to buy some more models based on rk3399 from other manufacturers, but there were problems with delivery and / or payment for my country.
 
If anyone has any suggestions for models that I should consider, I'm willing to listen to reasonable descriptions of the models.

Added version kernel 5.5 (20191228), which runs on AML G12 , RK33xx and Allwinner H6. On s912, s905 and S905x chips, HDMI does not work.