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    arox got a reaction from gnasch in Pulseaudio status in Armbian, H3   
    Well, I eventually got it working :
     
    - first I also forgot to signal I had change : "ControllerMode = bredr" in /etc/bluetooth/main.conf (not sure it is necessary)
    - second in /etc/init.d/ap6212-bluetooth, in hciattach command the serial speed is at 115200 and fex/uboot param don't seem to be relevant. I had to put it at 1500000, otherwise the daemon drops furiously samples.
    - and the major problem :
     
    The sink is by default connected to the headset profile at 8KHz mono (and it seems it doesn't work). You need to change it :
     
    - pactl set-card-profile <num> a2dp_sink
     
    <num> has to be retrieve with : pactl list cards (and it changes constantly !)
     
    But there is there also a bug : the next time the daemon will fail to reconnect the (recorded) profile and you will need to reset the "headset" profile, reconnect and reset a2dp : pactl set-card-profile <num> headset_head_unit + stop/start the device + pactl set-card-profile <num> a2dp_sink
     
    (The web is full of advises on people that explain that in normal mode with graphical interface, they need to alternate between profiles and restart the device before they can connect a2dp)
     
    I will now look if I manage to get the AVRCP profile connected threw uinput in order to read next/back commands.
     
    I end my comments here as it seems nobody is interested in BT on armbian.
     
    PS: second device, other problem ...
     
    It seems this one does not have his audio profile automatically connected. So if the device fail to be recognized by pulse or if it refuses to switch profile (with set-card-profile), try a connect <addr> with bluetoothctl ...
     
    PS2: workaround
     
    It seems profile selection bug is well knows (but not corrected in pulseaudio 8). After many tests, I think that the better solution is to NOT load the "module-card-restore" module. Otherwise, this module will reset the ad2p profile and bluez module fall in bugs and race conditions. So the workaround become :
    - disable module module-card-restore
    - monitor dbus events
    - on base [device] connection event, force connection by bluetoothctl connect, in order to connect audio profile (if device does not do that itself)
    - on audio [media] connection event, switch profile to a2dp
    - on [transport active] event start playback
     
    There are other bug that may need to be handled, but with the method described above, I can get a fast clean working server.
     
    Of course I think that this is only relevant for one version of (pulse, bluetooth, dbus)
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    arox reacted to Godz in Orange Pi Zero went to the market   
    2,5$ - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HLK-PM03-AC-DC-220V-to-3-3V-Step-Down-Buck-Power-Supply-Module-Intelligent-Household/32586663935.html
    I don't use crap $2 esp8266 - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/D1-mini-V2-Mini-NodeMcu-4M-bytes-Lua-WIFI-Internet-of-Things-development-board-based-ESP8266/32529101036.htmlD1_mini best choice IMHO.
    And don't think about money - I can eat in restaurant for 100$, but it give me less fun, than building my devices, it's a hobby.
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    arox reacted to Christos in NanoPI NEO / AIR   
    If you rotate 90degrees the heatsink and bolt it again, you will see that it has proper opennings for pin soldering..   
     
    Christos
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    arox got a reaction from wildcat_paris in More proper testing - better Armbian experience   
    "If no data went trough for certain boards, than either tester failed to test or it does not boot at all."
     
    If no data is auto-submitted, it indicates that network is not fully configured - not that the board doesn't boot. Or that it does not pass threw the firewall as in my case anyway ... In any case, you should explicitly ask permission for reporting.
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    arox got a reaction from wildcat_paris in Very bad joke   
    Well the board survived ... I am know trying to survive to debian and systemd : a mistake in /etc/network/interfaces and the system hang at boot ...
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    arox got a reaction from typoinmyname in Very bad joke   
    That is of course the first question I asked myself. Nevertheless, the card was purchased at a reliable supplier and anyway there is no way at my disposal to check that.
     
    The fact is that I have over 30 years experience in system but was not prepared to face such a stupid problem : hardware pretending doing the job but not doing anything. I suspected the image, the fs options and the card reader before the card itself when I noticed that files created on fs disappeared after unmount/remount !
     
    Anyway, I will now check /etc/os-release after flashing a card ...
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    arox got a reaction from tkaiser in Armbian customization   
    "Is it possible to have the same problem with udev?"
     
    I don't know and don't want to know - udev is a system configuration subsystem : a user shouldn't have to fiddle with multiple cryptic configuration files to configure his applications. If it doesn't work out of the box, it is bugs !
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    arox got a reaction from rodolfo in Backup script for block devices   
    Well ...
     
    - you dont provide a usage manual for your script.
    - raw archives need a full understanding of partitions and filesystems !
    - when you copy and compress a fs, you loose some crucial information : the size of partition needed to restore it. You need to store that somehow because you will end up with archives which you dont know why you have done it, and that require long and tedious operation to restore or simply identify.
    - it is always much more difficult to restore and manage archives than to make archives ...
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    arox got a reaction from rodolfo in Backup script for block devices   
    "everyone uses the tools he used already last century"
     
    Well tools are only part of the problems. In particular when people dont know if or why they need it. (And in that case tools tend to become the problem)
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    arox got a reaction from tkaiser in Most suitable Web Browser   
    Its not just a question of stability. When you browse the web, you want to be able to display every pages. The browser has to implement most of the moronic standards in use to format and style pages and execute javascript code. And even then, if the browser respects standards, you will only have a usable browser if websites test their pages against that browser.
     
    So, you have firefox or chromium. I never could use chromium because of memory leaks (the tabs where killed). You have to do with firefox :
     
    - use the card with the fastest CPU and huge heatsink (mulicore not usable with ff - 2 cores usable for sys/net/io/display AND js)
    - go in preference and "about:config" to disable all that is not needed
    - install extension to filter pubs and sniffing js (uBlock, disconnect, noscript ...) or use some frontend proxy like privoxy.
    - assure you have fast disk io for .mozilla and .cache
    - forget about video and perhaps remove pluggins or block them
    - compile it from source with optimization and disable what you can
    - wait for a multi-threaded stable version
     
    Edited on a BPI M1 (A20 2x1 GHz 1Go DDR3) - web filtered against js abuse. Quiet usable (but I browse youtube with another machine : atom 1.6 GHz and ff compiled with gentoo)
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    arox got a reaction from rodolfo in Most suitable Web Browser   
    I dont care for functionalities that make software unusable. Browsers are designed for use on 3 GHz multicore processors, and so are also web pages with "experience improving" sniffing javascript abuses.
     
    So I use a privoxy/polipo front-end to purge pages and I disbled local cache. (At least, you should use local filter extensions). Firefox DBs are another problem : I donnot want firefox were out my SD card or even use a costly SD card just for "improving my experience". I dont save work files in local but on an NFS server.
     
    I approve at 110% tkaiser's advice on using eMMC. But in the meantime, I currently use an A20/bpi1 as desktop and deported home and firefox gigacache on NFS, which is a bottleneck (even with no document cache). The ideal solution would be to use a ram FS, but what would be the best solution ?
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    arox got a reaction from damies in Loading a disabled module   
    Well, if you look at this topic, it explains how to generate your own kernel and modules. You should be able to enable batman in config. No reason it should not work.
     
    http://docs.armbian.com/Developer-Guide_Build-Preparation/
     
    There are numerous modules available in kernel. I dont know on which criteria they are enabled or disabled (@igor, @zador).
     
    I would like to test mesh networks with bluetooth, but my experience with bt since it is "maintained" by opendesktop.org folks dont give me much hope, so I would rather wait.
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    arox got a reaction from kudzu in Something is wrong with legacy Jessie server image for OPi PC+   
    Have you make a "sync" after dd ?
     
    I see also sometimes recommendations to wipe the cards (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX) before copying an image. I never do this, as I never found a justification to do it. But I also sometimes copy images that will not boot ...
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    arox got a reaction from otousama in Kernel logs on UART console   
    setenv bootargs "console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootwait"
     
    If it is what you entered in fex, you forgot the S (ttyS0 and not tty0)
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    arox reacted to tkaiser in SBC consumption/performance comparisons   
    LOL, today I did some testing with NanoPi NEO, kernel 4.7.2 and the new schedutil cpufreq scheduler. I let the following run to check thermal readouts after allowing 1200 MHz max cpufreq:
    sysbench --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 run --num-threads=$(grep -c '^processor' /proc/cpuinfo) To my surprise the result was just 117.5 seconds -- that's 'better' than RPi 3 with same settings and with Orange Pi PC while being clocked higher (1.3 GHz vs. 1.2 GHz) I got the following a few days ago: 'sysbench takes 142 seconds, H3 constantly running at 1296 MHz, SoC temperature reached 74°C but no throttling happening'
     
    Wow!!! An increase in performance of ~30 percent just by using a new kernel! With a benchmark that should not be affected by the kernel version at all?! That's magic.
      So I immediately tried out our 3.4.112 Xenial image. Same thermal readouts, same result: 117.5 seconds! What did happen?   I tried out Xenial 16.04 LTS with both 4.7.2 and 3.4.112 kernel. And before I always used Debian Jessie. Ok, downloaded our Jessie image for NanoPi NEO, executed the same sysbench call and got 153.5 seconds (which is the correct value given that no throttling occured, max cpufreq was at 1200 MHz and OPi PC clocked at 1296 MHz finishes in 142 seconds!)   What can we learn from this? Sysbench is used nearly everywhere to 'get an idea about CPU performance' while it is horrible crap to compare different systems! You always have to ensure that you're using the very same sysbench binary. At least it has to be built with the exact same compiler settings and version! We get a whopping 30 percent performance increase just since the Ubuntu folks use other compiler switches/version compared to the Debian folks:   This is 2 times 'sysbench 0.4.12'   Ubuntu Xenial Xerus: root@nanopineo:~# file /usr/bin/sysbench /usr/bin/sysbench: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, BuildID[sha1]=2df715a7bcb84cb03205fa3a5bc8474c6be1eac2, stripped root@nanopineo:~# lsb_release -c Codename: xenial root@nanopineo:~# sysbench --version sysbench 0.4.12 Debian Jessie:
    root@nanopineo:~# file /usr/bin/sysbench /usr/bin/sysbench: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=664005ab6bf45166f9882338db01b59750af0447, stripped root@nanopineo:~# lsb_release -c Codename: jessie root@nanopineo:~# sysbench --version sysbench 0.4.12 Just the same effect when comparing sysbench numbers on RPi 2 or 3 when running Raspbian or Ubuntu Mate -- see post #12 above (but there the difference is only 15 percent so it seems either the Raspbian people aren't using that conservative compiler switches compared to Jessie or Ubuntu Mate for Raspberries does not optimize that much as our 16.04 packages from Ubuntu repositories)
     
    TL;DR: Never trust any sysbench numbers you find on the net if you don't know which compiler settings and version have been used. Sysbench is crap to compare different systems. You can use sysbench's cpu test only for a very limited set of tests: Creating identical CPU utilization situations (to compare throttling settings as I did before in this thread), running tests to estimate multi-threaded results when adding/removing CPU cores or test CPU performance without tampering results by memory bandwidth (sysbench is that primitive that all code runs inside the CPU caches!)
     
    Everything else always requires to use the exact same sysbench binary on different systems to be able to compare. So no-cross platform comparisons possible, no comparisons between systems running different OS images, no comparisons between different CPU architectures possible. Using sysbench as a general purpose CPU benchmark is always just fooling yourself!
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    arox got a reaction from kudzu in Help me please to find the best successor of the cubieboard   
    Memory is mainly used by disk cache and object storage (especially in gui apps) ... and leakage in bad software. You should check if your system needs swap (with swapon -s for example). A database may need much RAM - especially when badly designed because it then needs full table scan. A java/servlet server needs RAM to keep users context. A gui or CAD program may create numerous instance and require much memory. Apart of that, for personal usage, high memory consumption is often due to bad software (with buggy chromium, I fear that you simply cannot get enough memory). A light DB or a lignt web server dont need that much memory - especially for serving static files.
     
    So buy as much of RAM that you can, but dont choose the card for the RAM unless you really know you need it : you can also use 2 cheap cards with different hardware instead of an expansive one if you have specific needs.
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    arox reacted to AnonymousPi in Thank you heaps for making Armbian!   
    Hi,
     
    Just joined to say thanks to all to those that are involved in the development of Armbian. I recently bought an Orange Pi PC after reading the internet full of people bitching about non-booting devices, HDMI issues, overheating and general crapness.
     
    Decided to buy a Orange Pi PC nonetheless, found an old crap micro SD card, burnt Armbian (the internet has made it clear to not bother with the crap on the official Orange Pi website!) onto it and the thing booted without any issues! Typing this message from it as we speak in Iceweasel!
     
    The thing only cost me 9 quid, so decided to donate what I would have wasted in cash on a Raspberry Pi 3 (which is anything but the 25 dollar SBC it seems to be advertised) as a donation to Igor and co.
     
    I just run the Orange Pi PC out of the plastic static bag it came in LOL!
     
    Once again, great work.
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    arox got a reaction from crt.bl in Orange Pi PC as a USB to TTL converter   
    Have you read that tutorial ?
     
    http://johanbijker.blogspot.fr/2012/07/tp-link-mr3420-serial-connection-with.html
     
    It looks like MR3420 use 3.3V and not TTL (5V) logic. You should be able to adapt this to other arm cards but beware that serial ports are ttyAMAx on raspbian and generaly ttySx on other systems.
     
    If you need to cross TTL and 3.3V logic, have also a look at level shifters in :
     
    http://elinux.org/RPi_GPIO_Interface_Circuits
     
    Now be prepared to have occasionally strange effects in some case as it sometimes prevent to do a full hardware reset (that means that if your system crash, you may have to unplug serial connection). You should make some test if you want to use that remotely with an unattended system.
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    arox got a reaction from wildcat_paris in SBC consumption/performance comparisons   
    I am afraid (or not anymore) that RPI zero will be obsolete before being really available.
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    arox reacted to tkaiser in SBC consumption/performance comparisons   
    The following is the start of a series of tests regarding minimized consumption mode for SBCs. Idea behind is to provide Armbian settings that allow some of the SBC we support to be used as cheap and low-power IoT nodes (or call it 'home automation' or anything else, at least it's about low-power and headless useage)
      I start with some consumption comparisons with various RPi models below just to get a baseline of numbers and to verify that my consumption monitoring setup is ok. Also you find a lot of numbers on the net that are questionable (measured with inappropriate equipment, comparing OS images with different settings, taking cable resistance not into account, wonky methodology only looking at current and forgetting about voltage fluctuations and so on) so I thought lets take a few RPi lying around and do some own measurement with an absolutely identical setup so the numbers I get can be compared reliably.   I used the most recent Raspbian Debian Jessie Lite image currently available (2016-05-27-raspbian-jessie-lite.img) with latest kernel (4.4.13), all upgrades applied, HDMI disabled in /etc/rc.local by '/usr/bin/tvservice -o' and RPi powered through USB port of a Banana Pro (my monitoring PSU -- all values below are 30 min average values). All tests done using the same Raspbian installation on the same SD card.   Memory throughput tests done using https://github.com/ssvb/tinymembench   CPU 'benchmarks' done using sysbench (that is known to be not able to compare different CPU architectures but since RPi 3 has to run with an ARMv7 kernel and ARMv6 userland it's ok to use it, also it's lightweight enough to not overload my 'monitoring PSU' and throttling could be prevented just by applying a cheap heatsink to the SoC). If we were able to run ARMv8 code on RPI 3's SoC then sysbench would be completely useless since then the test would not take 120 seconds but less than 10 (that's what you get from not using ARMv8 instruction set)   I always used 2 sysbench runs, the first with '--cpu-max-prime=20000' to get some numbers to compare, the second running for at least an hour with '--cpu-max-prime=2000000' to get reliable consumption reporting. With the RPi 3 applying a cheap heatsink was necessary to prevent throttling (cpufreq remained at 1200 MHz and SoC temperature at 80°C). Tests used all available CPU cores so the results only apply to multi-threaded workloads (keep that in mind, your 'real world' application requirements normally look different!): sysbench --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 run --num-threads=$(grep -c '^processor' /proc/cpuinfo) A few words regarding the RPi platform: All RPi use basically the same SoC. It's a BroadCom VideoCore IV SoC that boots a proprietary OS combined with 1 to 4 ARM cores that are brought up later. RPi Zero/A/A+/B/B+ use the BCM2835 SoC which adds 1 ARMv6 core to the VideoCore VPU/GPU, BCM2836 replaced this with a quad-core ARMv7 cluster and on the latest BCM2837 design they replaced the Cortex-A7 cores with Cortex-A53 that currently have to run in 32-bit mode only.   The other limitations this platform suffers from are also due to this design (VideoCore VPU/GPU being the main part of the SoC and no further SoC development done except exchanging ARM cores and minor memory interface improvements): only one single USB 2.0 OTG port available between SoC and the outside only DDR2 DRAM possible and the maximum is 1GB (all RPi use LPDDR2 at 1.2V) FAT partition needed where the proprietary VideoCore bootloader BLOBs are located So how do some RPi provide Ethernet and 2 or 4 USB ports? They use an onboard component called LAN9512 (Fast Ethernet + 2 USB ports on RPi B(not B+!) or LAN9514 providing Fast Ethernet + 4 USB ports on RPi B+, 2 and 3. The RPi models that save this component (RPi A+ and Zero) show not so surprisingly the lowest consumption numbers. Same could've been true for RPi A but unfortunately RPi foundation chose inefficient LDO (low dropout) regulators to generate 3.3V and 1.8V needed by various ICs on the boards which transform power into heat on the two first models (so no numbers for RPi A and B here since they're not suitable for low-power operation due to this design flaw)   We can see below that disabling the LAN9514 hub/Ethernet combo makes a huge difference regarding consumption which we should take into account if we start to compare with boards supported by Armbian (eg. H3 boards that feature real Ethernet and 4 real USB ports). Same applies to RPi A+ or Zero when an USB-to-Ethernet dongle is connected but here it heavily depends on the dongle in question. When using one of my Gbit-Ethernet dongles (Realtek RTL8153 based) consumption increases by +1100mW regardless whether buspower is 0 or 1, with a random Fast Ethernet adapter it makes a difference -- see below.   RPi Zero with nothing connected, doing nothing, just power led:  echo 0 >/sys/devices/platform/soc/20980000.usb/buspower --> 365 mW With a connected Apple USB-Fast-Ethernet dongle consumption is like this: echo 0 >/sys/devices/platform/soc/20980000.usb/buspower --> 410 mW (no network) echo 1 >/sys/devices/platform/soc/20980000.usb/buspower --> 1420 (network active, cable inserted but idling) That means this USB-Ethernet dongle consumes 45mW when just connected (regardless whether the RPi is completely powered off or buspower = 0) and as soon as an USB connection between dongle and RPi is negotiated and an Ethernet connection on the other side another whopping 1010 mW adds to overall consumption. Therefore choose your Ethernet dongle wisely when you deal with devices that lack native Ethernet capabilities   Fortunately the RPi Zero exposes the SoC's one single OTG port as Micro USB with ID pin so the Zero unlike all other RPi models can switch to an USB gadget role so we can use the USB OTG connection as network connection using the g_ether module (quite simple in the meantime with most recent Raspbian images, just have a look at https://gist.github.com/gbaman/975e2db164b3ca2b51ae11e45e8fd40a).I'll cover performance and consumption numbers in this mode in a later post (covering idle and full load and also some camera scenarios since this is my only use case for any RPi: HW accelerated video encoding).   Performance numbers: sysbench takes 915 seconds on the single core @ 1000 MHz, 800 mW reported (+435 mW compared to 'baseline'). And tinymembench looks like this:   RPi B+: Nothing connected, doing nothing, just power led: echo 0 >/sys/devices/platform/soc/20980000.usb/buspower --> 600 mW echo 1 >/sys/devices/platform/soc/20980000.usb/buspower --> 985 mW buspower = 1 and Ethernet cable connected --> 1200 mW Performance: sysbench took 1311 seconds @ 700 MHz while 1160 mW consumption has been reported (+175 mW compared to 'baseline')   This is tinymembench:   RPi 2: Nothing connected, doing nothing, just power led: echo 0 >/sys/devices/platform/soc/3f980000.usb/buspower --> 645 mW echo 1 >/sys/devices/platform/soc/3f980000.usb/buspower --> 1005 mW Performance: sysbench takes 192 seconds @ 900 MHz, 2140 mW reported (+1135 mW compared to 'baseline'). And tinymembench looks like:   Raspberry Pi 3: nothing connected, doing nothing, just power led: echo 0 >/sys/devices/platform/soc/3f980000.usb/buspower --> 770 mW echo 1 >/sys/devices/platform/soc/3f980000.usb/buspower --> 1165 mW buspower = 1 and Ethernet cable connected --> 1360 mW Important: RPi 3 idles at just ~130mW above RPi 2 level. Whether further savings are possible by disabling WiFi/BT is something that would need further investigations.   Performance: sysbench takes 120 seconds (constantly at 1200 MHz, 80°C), consumption reported is 3550 mW (+2385 mW compared to 'baseline') and tinymembench looks like:     To sum it up:   There's not much magic involved regarding consumption of the various RPi models: When it's about the 'do really nothing' use case then RPi A+ most probably wins due to half the amount of LPDDR2 DRAM compared to RPi Zero who is next. Both SBC are dimensioned for light loads (only one USB port available that has to provide max 500mA by specs) and save the LAN9514 IC (combined internal USB hub and Fast Ethernet adapter) The two first models RPi A and B are not worth a look when it's about low consumption since they use inefficient LDO regulators to provide different voltages that waste a lot energy. Newer RPi models rely on better circuitry. By accessing /sys/devices/platform/soc/*.usb/buspower consumption can be influenced on all models but it depends on what's connected to the USB port (see the USB-Ethernet adapter example on RPi Zero above) On RPi B+, 2 and 3 cutting power to LAN9514 saves ~400mW. When LAN9514 negotiates an Ethernet connection then consumption increases by ~200mW (which is just 600mW more and really not that bad!) The energy savings of disabled HDMI and especially onboard leds are not that great but you can control behaviour from userspace and get these savings 'for free' so why not disabling stuff you don't need? Consumption numbers for the 'everything disabled and doing nothing' (power cut to LAN9514!) use case do not differ that much. RPi Zero: 365 mW, RPi B+: 600 mW, RPi 2: 645 mW, RPi 3: 770 mW (still no idea whether disabling WiFi/BT on RPi 3 brings consumption down to B+/2 level) When exactly no network connectivity is needed or only from time to time (eg. every hour for a minute or something like this) RPi Zero and A+ can shine. If you need LAN or WiFi permanently you should keep in mind that this adds approx. +1000mW to your consumption and then all LAN9514 equipped 'larger' RPi models might be more energy efficient (!). Even if RPi 3 is not able to perform optimal (ARMv8 cores running an ARMv7 kernel and an ARMv6 userland) it might be an intersting replacement for a RPi B+ if you need the USB ports and Ethernet. You could limit maximum consumption by disabling CPU cores 2-4 and could still get less overall consumption when running light workloads since even with 1 CPU core active RPi 3 is almost twice as fast as the single core RPis (compare with the 'race to idle' concept, the faster work can be done the earlier CPU cores can enter low-power states). EDIT: Disabling CPU cores on RPi 3 does not help with consumption -- see post #5 below. And now to answer the question many might ask since I was talking all the time about various RPi models: Q: Do you now port Armbian to Raspberry Pi?! A: Nope To be honest, there's no need for that. Raspbian when running on Raspberries is really great (unlike the various crappy Raspbian images made eg. for Banana Pis), RPi users are familiar with it, tens of thousands tutorials are available and so on.   For me personally it was just important to verify some consumption numbers available on the net, to verify whether my readouts using the PMIC of an Allwinner SBC are correct (seems so) and to get the idea which energy savings level we should target with our new Armbian settings. Based on some experiments done with an Orange Pi Lite I'm pretty confident that we will soon have a couple of ultra cheap H3 boards (that are available unlike RPi Zero which costs way more due to added shipping costs and the inability to order more than one at a time!) that outperform RPis when it's about consumption. At least when we're talking about networked setups and not only the 'does really nothing at all' use case   Remaining questions: Why do they allow RPi Zero to clock with up to 1 GHz by default when they limit B+ to 700 MHz (compare performance and consumption numbers of both tinymembench and sysbench above)? How does RPi 3 behaves consumption-wise when WiFi/BT are turned off? How does consumption looks like on the various RPi when average load is not close to 0 but some stuff has to be done (I came accross a lot of really broken python or whatever scripts that try to readout sensors and increase load and consumption a lot). This is an area where RPi 3 (and maybe 2 also) might shine since their SoCs consume only slightly more than the horribly outdated single-core BCM2835 and are able to finish stuff a lot faster (again: 'race to idle' concept: Entering low-power CPU states earlier helps with minimizing consumption if there is some constant load) Further readings: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt.md http://www.jeffgeerling.com/blogs/jeff-geerling/raspberry-pi-zero-conserve-energy http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/8498/disable-lan9512 http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/43285/raspberry-pi-3-vs-pi-2-power-consumption-and-heat-dissipation http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/5033/how-much-energy-does-the-raspberry-pi-consume-in-a-day https://learn.adafruit.com/introducing-the-raspberry-pi-model-b-plus-plus-differences-vs-model-b/power-supply
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    arox got a reaction from tkaiser in Running H3 boards with minimal consumption   
    tkaiser said : "For RPi Zero exactly zero use cases come to my mind"
     
    Well, I have an old Raspi A that serve a dozen of relays, IR transmitter, buzzer, Bluetooth remote, and other goodies. A 80286 would do the job. Idem with an other Pi for a waker (lamp + buzzer + radio), and other for temp sensors ...
     
    So my personal use cases are low power, low consumption devices in a BT pan network. Ideally, I should use aduinos and mesh zigbee or z-wave network, but it would cost much more time and money !
     
    So I am very interested in nanopi neo as RPI zero is so hard to find. Thanks for your work. Even if you dont have use cases for some cards, other will have the needs that match the specs. (I dont use a computer anymore but a network of arm nodes with specific roles : server, fw, desktop ...)
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    arox got a reaction from tkaiser in g_ether driver (H3 device as Ethernet dongle)   
    tkaiser said : " I then replaced the PSU with another one where barrel plug fitted somewhat tighter and subsequent boots were fine. Maybe that's the culprit?"
     
    I use to power my RPI threw GPIO. I never tried with BPI. I dont have the schematics for BPI M2+. (On RPI it shunts the fuse). I will try to add a capacitor (the PSUs can have bad noise level) and power threw GPIO. I'll tell you if my BPI survive ...