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Hi there,

this is continuation of my previous thread about problems with my OPiPC+.

1). "OOB" Armbian Buster, looks working OK, not "ported" all soft / configs from another one.

2). Armbian Jessie upgraded up to Buster, mainly for mosquitto, OpenHAB2, PostgreSQL 11 (for logical replication).

Now I have copied everything (only different UUIDS) from working /boot directory to the one with problems.

(kernel, initrd, etc).

 

What I do not understand, is fact, that on "good" HTOP shows 4 cores, on "bad" one only 1 core, performance is horrible (OpenHAB startup in minutes). OpenHab (I suspect) can cause whole system to hang - ping works but no even ssh / www.

 

What am I missing?

This is mainly to understand "why", more than solve (as I can copy uSD from working one as soon as I migrate services to "new" one).

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usual user

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46 minutes ago, laurentppol said:

What am I missing?

You don't say anything about the used u-boot and its configuration.
U-boot performs the basic system initialization, so a different u-boot setup can lead to such behavior.
The Kernel initialization is based on the initial u-boot setup.

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u-boot is (probably) "original" from "OOB" Armbian Jessie. Should I update it now using nand-sata-install?

Tried this, using program from working OPi. As there was no "nand-sata-install" on upgraded device. (used scp)

 

It boots, but still shows 1 core :(.

Uboot prompt is accessible only from hardware serial?

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U-boot and its components usually reside in the not allocated space of the partition table between MBR and the 1th partition.
What tool you use to put it in the proper location does not really matter.  I prefer to learn what the specific parameters of the desired device are and use dd.  It always works the same way and I don't have to rely on tools where I don't know what they're really doing.
But perhaps someone who knows Armbian better can tell you what is the preferred way in your environment.

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19 hours ago, laurentppol said:

Armbian Jessie upgraded up to Buster


This is not a recommended way and you are lucky that you boot the board ... however, if you don't update boot loader manually, you will not have all four cores. This is known problem, but to explain you why is this happening ... I would need to waste hours since I lost it from my head. Use search engine to obtain that info if you are curious.

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Today I have "upgraded" bootloader. As both devices have identical SD cards and partition layout I simply copied (using dd + scp) beginning of /dev/mmcblk1 from working to "partially working" OPiPC+. Rebooted but NO change, htop still shows only 1 core on "old" one :(

 

What could I check / change next? (as probably 1 core is far not enough in system hosting OpenHAB2 which is quite big Java app).

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On 5/23/2020 at 7:27 PM, laurentppol said:

Now I have copied everything (only different UUIDS) from working /boot directory to the one with problems.

(kernel, initrd, etc).

Just a shot into the dark. When you copied the kernel binary, you also copied its companion modules from /usr/lib/modules/<kernel-version> to your rootfs? Perhaps the initrd lacks an essential module that is later loaded from rootfs. You must use the same <kernel-version>directory label in your rootfs.

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Ok, forgot.

Just copied now, on "non working" there are now /lib/modules/ for 5.4.31 (from NEW board, stock Armbian Buster) AND 5.4.35 (which shows - surprise on OLD board). Rebooted, no change in htop, differencies in lsmod...

 

lsmod -> OLD one:

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Module                  Size  Used by
uinput                 20480  2
snd_soc_hdmi_codec     16384  1
zram                   24576  2
rc_cec                 16384  0
snd_soc_simple_card    16384  1
snd_soc_simple_card_utils    16384  1 snd_soc_simple_card
sun8i_codec_analog     24576  1
lima                   36864  0
sun4i_i2s              24576  2
sunxi_cir              16384  0
dw_hdmi_i2s_audio      16384  0
dw_hdmi_cec            16384  0
sun8i_adda_pr_regmap    16384  1 sun8i_codec_analog
sun4i_codec            40960  3
sun4i_gpadc_iio        16384  0
gpu_sched              24576  1 lima
snd_soc_core          118784  6 sun4i_codec,sun4i_i2s,sun8i_codec_analog,snd_soc_hdmi_codec,snd_soc_simple_card_utils,snd_soc_simple_card
snd_pcm_dmaengine      16384  1 snd_soc_core
snd_pcm                65536  5 sun4i_codec,sun4i_i2s,snd_pcm_dmaengine,snd_soc_hdmi_codec,snd_soc_core
industrialio           49152  1 sun4i_gpadc_iio
snd_timer              24576  1 snd_pcm
sun8i_thermal          16384  0
snd                    45056  8 snd_soc_hdmi_codec,snd_timer,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm
soundcore              16384  1 snd
sunxi_cedrus           32768  0
v4l2_mem2mem           20480  1 sunxi_cedrus
evdev                  20480  4
uio_pdrv_genirq        16384  0
uio                    16384  1 uio_pdrv_genirq
cpufreq_dt             16384  0
binfmt_misc            16384  1
8189fs               1081344  0
cfg80211              425984  1 8189fs
rfkill                 20480  3 cfg80211

dm_crypt               32768  0
dm_mod                 94208  1 dm_crypt
dax                    24576  1 dm_mod
ip_tables              24576  0
x_tables               20480  1 ip_tables
pwrseq_simple          16384  1
sy8106a_regulator      16384  1
gpio_keys              20480  0

 

and from NEW one:

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Module                  Size  Used by
overlay                77824  2
fuse                   81920  3
snd_soc_hdmi_codec     16384  1
8189fs               1081344  0
rc_cec                 16384  0
sunxi_cir              16384  0
sun8i_codec_analog     24576  1
sun8i_adda_pr_regmap    16384  1 sun8i_codec_analog
sun4i_gpadc_iio        16384  0
lima                   36864  0
industrialio           49152  1 sun4i_gpadc_iio
uas                    20480  0
gpu_sched              24576  1 lima
dw_hdmi_cec            16384  0
dw_hdmi_i2s_audio      16384  0
sun8i_thermal          16384  0
sun4i_codec            40960  3
sun4i_i2s              24576  2
cfg80211              425984  1 8189fs
rfkill                 20480  3 cfg80211
sunxi_cedrus           32768  0
v4l2_mem2mem           20480  1 sunxi_cedrus
zram                   24576  2
snd_soc_simple_card    16384  1
snd_soc_simple_card_utils    16384  1 snd_soc_simple_card
snd_soc_core          118784  6 sun4i_codec,sun4i_i2s,sun8i_codec_analog,snd_soc_hdmi_codec,snd_soc_simple_card_utils,snd_soc_simple_card
snd_pcm_dmaengine      16384  1 snd_soc_core
snd_pcm                65536  5 sun4i_codec,sun4i_i2s,snd_pcm_dmaengine,snd_soc_hdmi_codec,snd_soc_core
snd_timer              24576  1 snd_pcm
snd                    45056  8 snd_soc_hdmi_codec,snd_timer,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm
soundcore              16384  1 snd
evdev                  20480  5
uio_pdrv_genirq        16384  0
uio                    16384  1 uio_pdrv_genirq

cpufreq_dt             16384  0
ip_tables              24576  0
x_tables               20480  1 ip_tables
pwrseq_simple          16384  1
sy8106a_regulator      16384  1
gpio_keys              20480  0

 

Does it say something? No encryption/LVM on new may be caused by fact, it was now connected to USB HDD with LUKS/LVM partitions (the old one was).

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1 hour ago, laurentppol said:

Does it say something?

Perhaps checking the output of "dmesg" that was recorded on both devices after a fresh reboot can gain more insight.

As you said you had copied everything in /boot, you also copied the kernel companion dtb files, did you?

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On 7/12/2020 at 10:42 PM, xwiggen said:

have you tried swapping SD+PSU+cable to rule out any hardware issues?

having similar issues to OP and i did tried this method. nothing worked.

 

8 hours ago, laurentppol said:

Will also try to replace SD card

can update?

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Ok, cloned "working" uSD (dd + gzip + scp + unzip + dd :) over the network).

At least problem with only 1 core is "gone", will do "burn in" test for few days.

This also will give me possibility to attach to serial and record boot sequence (swapping cards).

 

But I think it is system problem.

It would be interesting to find WHY it gone bad? (after upgrade from Jessie).

 

Anyway I am migrating OpenHAB2 and PostgreSQL to OPi3, more MHz, 2x more RAM. It is too heavy for OPiPC(+). Final target will be OPi4 :)

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Stopped after 5 days :(.

This MAY be temperature issue:

- found system in "dead" (but graphic login screeen displayed, mouse & kbd dead) state, no even ping.

- after power-up cycle system restarted (with OpenHAB2 "starting"), in htop core temperature 80+*C.

- case was REALLY HOT.

 

In few days I expect to get fan for this (originally for RPi3 but I think I can adapt it, it is 3.3V/5V). Drill the ventilation holes then return to testing. Have spare heatsink will attach it to processor too.

I also made "1 liner shell" running, sending date every minute to a file, so I'll be able to tell when it started and when stoppped. Someone knows how to get core temperature (like on ssh login screen & htop screen) from shell command line?

 

Also stopped OpenHAB2 -> for eating 280MB RAM.

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1 hour ago, laurentppol said:

Got to the readme ;) finally.

Installed linux-source, then libncurses-dev, then compiled. Works.

A bit too complicated (not suitable for script use, IMO). Do You know anything better suited for scripts? Eg 1 line per temp? Or just do a grep on tmon output?

you could use sensors from lm-sensors

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13 hours ago, laurentppol said: 

root@orangepi3:~# sensors
No sensors found!
Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.

:(

odd. 5.4.x does not display the temp, coming release does :-)


  

# modprobe sun8i-thermal
# cat /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp

 

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GREAT, thats what I may use in script :).

As one of my OPiPC+ repeatedly hangs, despite heatsinks, but it is in plastic enclosure, so I may suspect overheating.

Now I will add not only date/time but temperature too to a "logfile".

 

Changed uSD card from Toshiba to Samsung (A1) same. System is not the "old upgraded one" with whitch I had problems, but a clone of working OPi.

Last thing is power, but there is SMPS 5V 3A + UltraCap 1F/5.5V, but who knows, cable is short (10-15cm) but poor quality (more than 1ohm @ 1m).

 

But a bit strange, other one, w/o heatisinks, shows temp 74950 (I guess it is miliK) but runs (for now) for 8 days w/o problem.

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