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  1. Yes, suggesting those images is our bug. I am aware that sorting doesn't work right but this is yet another problem we have to deal with. I have asked that this is fixed and since we don't have professional support It can take several weeks, perhaps a month. I can't fix it, I can just patch it, so I have removed those images for good and they will be gone from index within several hours. More then this its not possible to do. I am using this image for several months in production. Any many other people. We share this joy with you. Mainline based support functions rarely gets to full completion as its very expensive to brought things up and maintain with no budget. Adjust expectations, use old kernel, share findings with others, but don't expect anything, especially not answering questions. It can easily take hours, which is not at end users level.
  2. More then expected. There are many warnings for you to read when you boot those images. Why do you think this is written: Only Armbian standard supported builds usually works well. Download it and enjoy. If you have problems with others, you need to invest your own time to fix, adjust expectations.
  3. This myth is one of the places this whole business sales departments are targeting. If you and me understands the difference, most don't, even they are hardcore and long time Linux users, those who will buy hardware. "Android kernel" is as hardware support done in as cheap as possible way, presentation quality, its full of hacks and proprietary solutions, often with binary libraries. Often at this point vendor support ends. Most of HW vendors investments goes into sales, not into software development. This is reserved for others, often community slave workforce. Why I used this terrible word? Because force is normal MO. This forum and especially vendors forums are full of angry customers attacking developers to fix things. Those developers nobody ever paid or say thanks. Open source development is fun, but not when force and abuse is main drive. Everyone would like to have that, just the problem is that this costs several millions per SoC to develop and further to keep support stable. If they move money they put into sales rather to R&D, competitors will run them over in no time and they even see and treat us as competitors. Orangepi rather invested money to re-brand our OS and our build tools in order to look professional in front of their customers. It would be better for you and them to deal with hardware level issues, and maintain their stack as some others does. With our well maintained build framework that is mainline / as close to mainline as possible. They don't understand the value. Short term profits and ego are more important. Similar goes to Radxa. They mainly ignore supporting mainline problems but they rush to publish news that their hardware is supported by Armbian, while Armbian team didn't know that, its regular fake news, until yesterday as I stumble upon that. Now imagine their customer coming to Armbian and expecting support we never planned, knows nothing about, never wanted or have budget for. This is how vendors play dirty (with you and FOSS developers) and there is little we can do about. A lot of efforts goes into the clarification that we don't support this and that hardware and that support is best effort anyway ... Which means its possible nobody will ever answer or fix the problem. Anywhere, mainline, or with other Linux distro. Pragmatic experience working in this world since early days on top of 30 years of with Linux, 10 out of this in embedded Linux. I have no motive to picture things nicer as they are. Rockchip and many vendor recognizes our efforts but they do nothing to help us. Contrary. Some has dirty business practices also toward us, even we helped them a lot. Enlighten me?
  4. Even there would be a big advertisement, a very few people would notice and care about. If we would rely on end users to provide information we need, even this is in their interest, very very few people responds. If you want to get proper attention, you need to invest a lot of time ... or someone else has to invest it. We collect data with automation: https://github.com/armbian/os?tab=readme-ov-file#latest-smoke-tests-results As this is not in armbianmonitor and as older boards are not very stable and thus offline, this is an afternoon of work, which you (anyone, ain't personal) would need to wait few years on it. Support for Armbian hasn't changed much since you stop contributing. You know what to do to get this data from the boards that are in the pool. Fork, PR, Thank you.
  5. At the very bottom of Orangepi 5 download page https://www.armbian.com/orangepi-5/ "Rolling releases from CI pipeline"
  6. Probably it just works now. There were many fixes applied to this area in past year and half. https://github.com/armbian/build/commits/main/lib/functions/image/initrd.sh
  7. Rockchip software development is focused to deliver Android / hardware showcase experience, not for real Linux OS implementation. Their upgrade from 5.10 to 6.1 brings very little of what you are hoping for. This has some technical gain, while majority is marketing value to support hardware sales. Real software support is on us, community and various Linux kernel professionals that are operating in this segment. Anyhow, we will maintain the tool that helps you implement it. We already implemented mainline based support and that we will maintained in best effort manner. Similar as it works today - all functions of the SoC will never be covered and maintainace will depend on your support or absence of it. Our automated testing facility shows no problems (btw. test images, which could be broken, are for developers only) https://github.com/armbian/os?tab=readme-ov-file#orangepi5-plus How to boot Armbian: https://docs.armbian.com/User-Guide_Getting-Started/ How to report problems: https://www.armbian.com/bugs Support us, so we can sponsor people that sold you hardware: https://liberapay.com/armbian
  8. https://www.armbian.com/compatible/ Here you can check a selection of compatible devices, usually in some personal / Armbian use. You probably don't need 16 port USB hub which is on that list, but that will certainly work perfectly. If you go for some cheap variants, and most of hubs are a lot cheaper, you will be chasing luck. For my purpose, automated testing of USB devices withing Armbian, I can't use cheap ones.
  9. "Virtual disk images (such as VHD and VMDK) are intended to be used for cloud computing," https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMG_(file_format)#Comparison_to_ISO_images Our build framework can generate cloud images directly https://github.com/armbian/build/blob/main/extensions/image-output-vhd.sh in case you need to automate this and you don't want to mess with additional scripting. ./compile.sh ENABLE_EXTENSIONS="image-output-vhd" Try using dd and copy entire image from USB to /dev/vdi or whatever disk device is. Please provide armbianmonitor -u and if you want to look into & help in this context, here are sources. You are also welcome to open a ticket and we both can hope someone will fix this soon. Even its probably just one-line fix, someone needs to find that line, test it to make sure it works and open a pull request.
  10. If you don't power it via powered hub, its almost certainly this. Those USB ports are not delivering sufficient power.
  11. They are ISO images, just compressed with .xz Yes. this should be correct ISO image, just with fixed name. If you use this link https://redirect.armbian.com/region/EU/uefi-x86/Jammy_current our redirector will give you latest image.
  12. Thanks for the tip! Our current dirty hack is not even that and anyway doesn't work. You are welcome to remove that patch an add this one. Once merged, I can enable hardware on automated testings to see long term effects.
  13. With last release, we have frozen sources at branch. If you need specific version, you need to change both: KERNELBRANCH='tag:v6.1.23' KERNELPATCHDIR='meson64-current' # where you have patches that match your version. In most cases they will just fit.
  14. We had (still have) issues (broken ipv6) with primary rsync server infrastructure and secondary (which is probably your source) was out of sync until few hours ago. I have manually re-run update check and images are now in sync, while packages are not yet. Working on it ... Thank you!
  15. Official image builder is old Armbian fork that is not maintained by anyone, so its at least security hazardous to run those low quality quickly made official builds. Anyway they are contributing nothing but build configs. You would help a lot more people, regularly, if you add config changes (what you are adding, not what you are striping out) to the Armbian build framework, which is applying fixes daily: - for build configuration - hardware support https://docs.armbian.com/Release_Changelog/ That you will not find in official software support.
  16. @Tearran
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  18. sudo apt update sudo apt purge armbian-bsp-cli-odroidn2-current sudo apt install armbian-bsp-cli-odroidn2-current Should not make things worse. If it will uninstall base-files, re-install them too. But yes I am guessing here a bit as I am just remembering that we discussed this problem once and I think we have fixed it. Files exists: https://armbian.systemonachip.net/apt/pool/main/b/base-files/ Thank you! No worries.
  19. We can't provide all variants but as we keep build framework in decent state, you can build it at any moment. If hardware features still work well, that is another story - hardware does not have official Armbian maintainer anymore. Hardkernel should take care of this, but they does this job not very well. They never see value in our work even we tried to maintain their software stack for them, their users and our competitors. https://github.com/armbian/distribution I tried to automate OMV image making, but got overwhelmed with more important and critical problems - we are seriously understaff. If someone, that is not already helping on the project, takes this, invest his time and move forward, it would help many. @houdini_69 I am thankful for every support we get! <rant> Donations are emotional trigger at best. End user financial support via donations never went over 0.5% of our costs - to paraphrase: its like covering 2 out of 365 days and expecting to have service with rights to complain 24/7 for a whole year ... Which means we still do more or less everything for free. Maintaining this fairly complex software stack costs us a lot more most people can imagine - i am tired to explain this as nobody really cares. All we have to care is to not burn out which is again hard when reward is not proportional. Also there is always another and another problem and keeping users happy is impossible. And unhappy user don't donate. This is a lot more valuable. I know what we need, but can only count on volunteers. Which in 90% aim at funny jobs avoiding hard and unpleasant tasks. That we need to hire, which is not possible ... </rant>
  20. Try to purge bsp package and install latest from repository.
  21. Igor

    Mainline kernel

    At release time, we make a branch from build framework and this was the 1st time that we also lock down sources. At least most of them. This means you can recreate identical images as those that were officially released. Since maintaining is very expensive and resources are slim, we have to focus very carefully what to maintain. Maintaining stable branch is a dedication - merging bug fixes only from main https://github.com/armbian/build/commits/main on a daily basis. As this board doesn't match "Standard support" criteria: https://docs.armbian.com/User-Guide_Board-Support-Rules/ its masked behind EXPERT="yes" switch. You can build it, but you have to understand that nobody is specifically taking care of. But you ... if you want to keep it on the requested levels of "Standard support".
  22. There are two paths from here: - port device tree to LTS 6.1.y kernel (example) - add more recent ZFS to the stable package base (this might not be the best idea as it affects many existing installations and I saw many corruption related bugs in recent ZFS versions)
  23. I bet you saw a big warning when you boot this image for the first time? Warning is there, because its impossible to help. Use kernel 5.10.y for better hardware support. Many functions on mainline are not even developed yet.
  24. Some users may experience issues when downloading new v23.11 images from our website or also sometimes with apt not having the new packages. The reason is that we had a (not so) small whoopsie at the very last minute and the infra is still recovering and syncing. Easiest workaround would be to simply try multiple times until the redirector hits a mirror that has the files you want to download. Alternatively go directly to https://fi.mirror.armbian.de/ which (seems to) have all the files atm. Will work with apt as well.
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