milkboy Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Armbianmonitor: http://ix.io/2GYk I'm on a years old Orange pi zero H2, an often forgotten single purpose print/scan server board. So i want to upgrade to the latest kernel via armbian-config->system->other(switch kernel). Previously its on 4.19. so when i tried to change to current 5.8.16, 5.8.14, 5.8.12 & 5.8.5, i got "No end-user support: unsupported (stretch) userspace!" it has taken me an hours plus just switching kernel, hoping to find the supported ones. though i dont mind unsupported / legacy kernel, i still prefer the latest supported ones. Is any of the kernel on the list supported? if there none on the list, is there a way to add a supported kernel? or change back to 4.19? Edited December 7, 2020 by milkboy grammar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 47 minutes ago, milkboy said: (stretch) userspace Is not kernel. That is Debian base which is getting old / obsolete / out of support. Kernel (hardware interface layer) - on the other hand - you are already on latest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkboy Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 i see, i guess its time to upgrade the distro too. its next on my to do list. just trying to avoid bricking my sbc. Thx. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Distro upgrades like from Bionic to Focal or Stretch to Buster are neither tested nor supported. Backup is highly recommended when trying to do that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-80 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I had two questions, which were mostly for my own education: 1. I don't see "Orange Pi Zero H2" listed at all on Downloads page for Orangepi, although I see several very similarly named boards (but no exact match).[0] Is OP's board same as "Orange Pi Zero 2" or one of the others? Or not? 2. Maybe dumb question, but how is it possible that kernel, drivers, etc. can be on mainline (latest kernel) but userspace would not work? In other words, why would upgrade from Stretch to Buster not be supported if "userspace is upstream Debian anyway" as I often tell people? [0] This is one of things which drive me nuts about SBCs in general, there is often such similar naming which makes it at times confusing what board someone is referring to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinayotte Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, TRS-80 said: I don't see "Orange Pi Zero H2" listed at all It is here : https://www.armbian.com/orange-pi-zero/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-80 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) OK, so it is simply regular "Orange Pi Zero" which has "H2" chip. Obvious now when I follow your link, and see the large photo. Thanks, Martin. A few years in now and I still don't know all these boards, even though I have broaden my own horizons a lot by moderating forums. Other (perhaps more complicated) question #2 remains, for anyone keeping score at home. Edited December 7, 2020 by TRS-80 clarity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkboy Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 13 hours ago, Werner said: Distro upgrades like from Bionic to Focal or Stretch to Buster are neither tested nor supported. Backup is highly recommended when trying to do that. Yeah mos def. luckily its just a print server. not much to backup. 9 hours ago, TRS-80 said: 2. Maybe dumb question, but how is it possible that kernel, drivers, etc. can be on mainline (latest kernel) but userspace would not work? In other words, why would upgrade from Stretch to Buster not be supported if "userspace is upstream Debian anyway" as I often tell people? may be the upgrade it self that is not supported, rather than the user space. oh well i'll just take the plunge and see whats what. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkboy Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 i just did a apt dist-upgrade switch all apt list to buster, rebooted and..... ___ ____ _ _____ / _ \| _ \(_) |__ /___ _ __ ___ | | | | |_) | | / // _ \ '__/ _ \ | |_| | __/| | / /| __/ | | (_) | \___/|_| |_| /____\___|_| \___/ Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) with Linux 5.8.16-sunxi No end-user support: unsupported (stretch) userspace! why am i still on stretch user space? what did i do wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Most likely nothing and your upgrade went fine. But as mentioned distro upgrades are not supported (simply due to lack of (human) resources) and this tells us that such an upgrade has been performed which could cause unknown issues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkboy Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 yeah. its still usable. so ill leave it as is until broken. lolz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 hours ago, milkboy said: why am i still on stretch user space? Because we don't support disto upgrade ... you need to remove "stretch" armbian package and install "buster" ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkboy Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 5:26 AM, Igor said: Because we don't support disto upgrade ... you need to remove "stretch" armbian package and install "buster" ... yeah i ald did it in my previous post. and i have moved on now working on finding a way to boot armbian on an old rk3188 pc stick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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