linda Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Hello, I have a massive problem as the time/date on my Pine64 keep changing randomly to the year 2113. In my project, I use several Pine64s and the problem now occurs on many of these Pine64s. Unfortunately I need the correct time for my project. I am using the following system: ARMBIAN 5.32.170911 nightly Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS 4.13.0-sun50iw1 (with additional overlays = uart3 and console = ttyS3) Could this be due to the error described in the post and is the bug fixed in kernel version 4.14? Could I install this kernel version 4.14 via armbian-config (next-kernel)? Thanks a lot for help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinayotte Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Check in your config, like mine here is showing : root@pine64:~# grep CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_A008585 /boot/config-4.14.47-sunxi64 CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_A008585=y 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zador.blood.stained Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, martinayotte said: CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_A008585=y According to some discussions and tests this is not enough, A64 timer has worse problems so this was posted on the linux-sunxi mailing list recently. Though I think I've read in IRC logs that even this is not 100% reliable. And somehow Maxime decided to blame us for not reporting the clock issue, even though it was discussed on IRC several times and we here don't have a perfect understainding of arch timer vs system clock correlation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinayotte Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, zador.blood.stained said: A64 timer has worse problems so this was posted on the linux-sunxi mailing list recently Yes, I've seen that too. Maxime should not blame us, we only faced the issue and in my case, adding this erratum to config worked without any additionnal patches, I've never face the issue again, but that is maybe only luck ... If newer patch is better, we can probably try to integrate it in Armbian, but it is up to Maxime to ack the patch, not us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomady Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Oh. I had strange clock jumps on H3-based boards too. Can that be similar? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinayotte Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 6 hours ago, lomady said: Oh. I had strange clock jumps on H3-based boards too. Can that be similar? I don't think so ... The issue is really A64 related ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 many, many thanks for the quick responses and please excuse my bedelayed answer. In my current version (with kernel 4.13) CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_A008585 is not set. The updated kernel (4.14) results with CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_A008585 = y Thus, I will upgrade my existing devices to the new kernel (and hope that the issues zador.blood.staine addresses will not occur to me). With my test device I realized this with the tool "armban-config". Is there a way to parameterize the "armban-config" tool to run the update via script or is it possible to do the adjustment to the next kernel via command line? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 Is it correct to install the kernel with the following command: apt-get -o APT::Status-Fd=4 -o APT::Keep-Fds::=5 -o APT::Keep-Fds::=6 --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confdef -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confold -y -qq --no-install-recommends install linux-image-next-sunxi64 linux-headers-next-sunxi64 linux-u-boot-pine64-next linux-xenial-root-next-pine64 linux-dtb-next-sunxi64 (found in the history.log of the updated device) A test on a device with the kernel 4.13 shows no error and results in the new kernel 4.14. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 I have some pine64 with kernel 4.14 and so far the time-problems did not occur with this kernel. Unfortunately, however the pine64 updated to kernel 4.17 again show the the problem! Time jumps to the year 2113 (and sometimes even to 2208). I use kernel 4.17.5 and 4.17.6. The flag 'CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_A008585' is set (CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_A008585=y). Thanks a lot for help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinayotte Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Did you built image beofre or after this commit : https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/556b3067086266dd264e3f5e2dcdf61b60468d27 BTW, you can fix your image manually by editing the DT. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 19 hours ago, martinayotte said: Did you built image beofre or after this commit : https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/556b3067086266dd264e3f5e2dcdf61b60468d27 BTW, you can fix your image manually by editing the DT. I did the upgrades form an older image with 4.13-kernel via apt-get install linux-image-next-sunxi64 linux-headers-next-sunxi64 linux-u-boot-pine64-next linux-xenial-root-next-pine64 linux-dtb-next-sunxi64 on the 13th of july (resulting kernel 4.17.5) and on the 17th of july (resulting kernel 4.17.6). When was the commit entered into the next-branch? Can I fix the error if I make an upgrade (apt update, upgrade) to the current image? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinayotte Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, linda said: When was the commit entered into the next-branch? My own commit on DEV was on July 13th, but then Igor did a big branch management to switch from old NEXT to new NEXT on July 17th, so maybe the patch got blinded during few days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, martinayotte said: My own commit on DEV was on July 13th, but then Igor did a big branch management to switch from old NEXT to new NEXT on July 17th, so maybe the patch got blinded during few days. Thanks a lot for your help. So if I update the two devices to the current image (apt update/upgrade), then the error should not occur. I will try it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zador.blood.stained Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, linda said: then the error should not occur. As I said previously, using the Freescale errata helps, but it is still not 100% reliable. And A64 specific fix is still not complete and is not present in Armbian patches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlad59 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I know it's an old thread but I just got this problem (date was in 2114) with a recent dev kernel. The symptom was strange -> my DHCP server won't give my Pine64 an IP due to the date difference. I think the patch from Samuel Holland (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/linux-sunxi/pine64$20timer|sort:date/linux-sunxi/b27QfJJroR0/tZgFFQeCBAAJ was not applied (or I did not find it) so I'll try to build a kernel with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian redbeard Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) I decided to dig into this since I was seeing the same issue. root@string:~# uname -r 4.19.20-sunxi64 root@string:~# dpkg -s linux-image-next-sunxi64 Package: linux-image-next-sunxi64 Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: kernel Installed-Size: 87123 Maintainer: Igor Pecovnik <igor.pecovnik@****l.com> Architecture: arm64 Source: linux-4.19.20-sunxi64 Version: 5.75 Description: Linux kernel, version 4.19.20-sunxi64 This package contains the Linux kernel, modules and corresponding other files, version: 4.19.20-sunxi64. Homepage: http://www.kernel.org/ root@string:~# grep CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_A008585 /boot/config-4.19.20-sunxi64 CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_A008585=y root@string:~# date Sat Apr 28 02:43:25 UTC 2114 root@string:~# timedatectl Local time: Sat 2114-04-28 02:43:30 UTC Universal time: Sat 2114-04-28 02:43:30 UTC RTC time: Tue 2019-03-05 22:21:31 Time zone: Etc/UTC (UTC, +0000) System clock synchronized: no systemd-timesyncd.service active: no RTC in local TZ: no root@string:~# hwclock -s hwclock: settimeofday() failed: Invalid argument I decided to do a much more simple test: Spoiler root@string:~# strace -ff date 030514032019.10 2>&1 execve("/bin/date", ["date", "030514032019.10"], 0xffffc9e9e180 /* 18 vars */) = 0 brk(NULL) = 0xaaab0d1aa000 faccessat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) faccessat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=32028, ...}) = 0 mmap(NULL, 32028, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xffffa84d8000 close(3) = 0 faccessat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\2\1\1\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\267\0\1\0\0\0 \10\2\0\0\0\0\0"..., 832) = 832 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1341080, ...}) = 0 mmap(NULL, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xffffa84d6000 mmap(NULL, 1409880, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xffffa835d000 mprotect(0xffffa849d000, 61440, PROT_NONE) = 0 mmap(0xffffa84ac000, 24576, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x13f000) = 0xffffa84ac000 mmap(0xffffa84b2000, 13144, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xffffa84b2000 close(3) = 0 mprotect(0xffffa84ac000, 16384, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0xaaaacf0fe000, 8192, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0xffffa84e2000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 munmap(0xffffa84d8000, 32028) = 0 brk(NULL) = 0xaaab0d1aa000 brk(0xaaab0d1cb000) = 0xaaab0d1cb000 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3004464, ...}) = 0 mmap(NULL, 3004464, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xffffa807f000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/localtime", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=127, ...}) = 0 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=127, ...}) = 0 read(3, "TZif2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0"..., 4096) = 127 lseek(3, -71, SEEK_CUR) = 56 read(3, "TZif2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0"..., 4096) = 71 close(3) = 0 clock_settime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {tv_sec=1551794590, tv_nsec=0}) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) settimeofday({tv_sec=1551794590, tv_usec=0}, NULL) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2995, ...}) = 0 read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 4096) = 2995 read(3, "", 4096) = 0 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=578, ...}) = 0 mmap(NULL, 578, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xffffa84df000 close(3) = 0 write(2, "date: ", 6date: ) = 6 write(2, "cannot set date", 15cannot set date) = 15 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale-langpack/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) write(2, ": Invalid argument", 18: Invalid argument) = 18 write(2, "\n", 1 ) = 1 fstat(1, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0600, st_rdev=makedev(136, 0), ...}) = 0 write(1, "Tue Mar 5 14:03:10 UTC 2019\n", 29Tue Mar 5 14:03:10 UTC 2019 ) = 29 close(1) = 0 close(2) = 0 exit_group(1) = ? +++ exited with 1 +++ I can see that the when date attempts to make the clock_settime syscall, it receives EINVAL back. I'm wondering then why it sees CLOCK_REALTIME as invalid. I could potentially see an issue with CLOCK_REALTIME_COARSE which man 2 CLOCK_GETRES says is "architecture specific", but this one is throwing me of. Edited March 5, 2019 by Tido added spoiler - please add a spoiler nexttime yourself, thx 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian redbeard Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Also curious, 1551794590 seems to be the last time at which the system clock may have made a checkpoint via systemd-timesyncd on a previous reboot before going back to the future. $ date --date='@1551794590' Tue Mar 5 06:03:10 PST 2019 And a snippet from kern.log showing the current boot time: Mar 5 06:12:58 string kernel: [ 0.000000] Booting Linux on physical CPU 0x0000000000 [0x410fd034] Mar 5 06:12:58 string kernel: [ 0.000000] Linux version 4.19.20-sunxi64 (root@armbian.com) (gcc version 7.2.1 20171011 (Linaro GCC 7.2-2017.11)) #5.75 SMP Fri Feb 8 10:29:25 CET 2019 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KemoNine Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I'm also seeing this behavior on a sopine that I recently deployed. It's seemingly inconsistent as well. I checked the kernel config and it appears the CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_A008585 is enabled cat /boot/config-4.19.38-sunxi64 | grep -i CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_ CONFIG_FSL_ERRATUM_A008585=y And it's a very recent Arbian as well. 4.19.38-sunxi64 #5.83 Short of tracking the date every minute or so in something like Monit to fire off a reboot... does anyone know of a practical work around? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 Hi KemoNine, unfortunately, the problem still occurs sporadically for me (kernel 4.17). I have not found a solution and would also be very grateful for a practical work around. [my current work-around: "systemctl restart ntp"] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KemoNine Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 4 hours ago, linda said: Hi KemoNine, unfortunately, the problem still occurs sporadically for me (kernel 4.17). I have not found a solution and would also be very grateful for a practical work around. [my current work-around: "systemctl restart ntp"] I ended up deploying monit to track and respond to the clock jump. I ended up telling monit to reboot the system whenever the clock jumps ahead too far to keep some of my services I have deployed happy. At the link below you'll find my monit config file for the time jump as well as a small python script that's run by monit to look for any time jumps over 3 months into the future. You can tune the python script to look for larger jumps as well as the monit config to restart ntp instead of performing a full reboot. https://paste.lollipopcloud.solutions/?4e7e74d941e2c77d#ck/F7Tv6UBadpzlU56v+vzalNf1646gM8iHLvA3wd7w= I hope this helps even if it's a rough work around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkral78 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 It seems that upstream kernel (5.2rc4 at the point) has already the fix from Samuel Holland). https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/c950ca8c35eeb32224a63adc47e12f9e226da241#diff-27e9d89068f8125140ea388216ae3140 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, pkral78 said: It seems that upstream kernel (5.2rc4 at the point) has already the fix from Samuel Holland). Fix should already be a part of Armbian NEXT 4.19.y kernel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windysea Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 hours ago, pkral78 said: It seems that upstream kernel (5.2rc4 at the point) has already the fix from Samuel Holland). https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/c950ca8c35eeb32224a63adc47e12f9e226da241#diff-27e9d89068f8125140ea388216ae3140 Yes that fix should already be part of the existing kernels, however there are actually several timer-related issues on the A64 and it is not clear that they are all addressed even upstream. Even with all of the fixes that have been published I still see the issue recur occasionally. There is a thread in the Development section where this is (or was) being discussed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstone78 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hei Guys is there any news about this A64 problem? it keeps happening, and makes my pine64 completely unreliable 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinayotte Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, mrstone78 said: is there any news about this A64 problem? it keeps happening, and makes my pine64 completely unreliable To my knowledge, it has been fix with the above patch months ago ... Which image are you using ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ams.br Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Hi, for me the problem persist. I'm using 5.2.5-sunxi64 dev 5.92. I've already try other, stable, next, dev. After some time it's jump to 2114. My board is a Orange Pi Win Plus (a64), others boards 32bit work normaly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstone78 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I'm on Ubuntu Bionic with Armbian Linux 4.19.63-sunxi64 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinayotte Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, mrstone78 said: I'm on Ubuntu Bionic with Armbian Linux 4.19.63-sunxi64 Do you have "CONFIG_SUN50I_ERRATUM_UNKNOWN1=y" in /boot/config-4.19.63-sunxi64 ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinayotte Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 47 minutes ago, ams.br said: My board is a Orange Pi Win Plus (a64), others boards 32bit work normaly The bug is only in A64 SoC, all other SoCs don't have the issue ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markolonius Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Problem still persists with the upstream patches. Been running 5.2.5-sunxi64 and I still get this issue. Its somewhat more stable on this kernel however if you stop and disable systemd-timesyncd. Seems like systemd-timesyncd provokes it more. But I still have to reboot and use ntpdate to sync the time when it flips to year 2114 usually every few days. Very unreliable. Yes I have "CONFIG_SUN50I_ERRATUM_UNKNOWN1=y". @sundbry mentioned he applied this patch from the legacy 3.x kernel and has been stable for 1 month https://github.com/arctype-co/linux/commit/5fcb4e57eeaa4d670ef4acf5818c6fe16aa0d3d0 Not sure if this will ever work its way into official builds at this time. No one else seems to want to talk about the issue in Dev forms. (I'm no dev). Hope to hear about any new progress in this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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