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https://us06web.zoom.us/rec/share/8WlX6iXdBhFdX5FsZQ2MWGLXBdFs-Fo9424CoAi4gZ0WJqn1zyKZxcZ1bqdTz7ar.oGZ-CHIex4oSBIlo
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Armbian never provided that. I bet you can find such image somewhere on Hardkernel forums, but I assume you are looking for fresh and maintained? Nobody said its impossible. Its just not worth talking about in 2023. But as this is open source, nobody prevents you to make what you are looking for. IIRC this was for backwards compatibility reasons, that one image could run on 32b and 64b Rpi. On Armbian, you can run armhf on aarch64 user space out of the box. If you are concerned about that small memory overhead that comes with aarch64 user land ... ask vendor if they pay for your wishes, so we will hire someone to do this for you. We can't.
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https://docs.armbian.com/User-Guide_Getting-Started/#how-to-check-download-authenticity
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Installing compatible OS for BPI-M2 Berry and Pi-Hole
Igor replied to GrimclawDraven's topic in Beginners
https://github.com/pi-hole/docs/pull/937 Install it. It will work. -
Yes. I disabled it in the databases ... didn't test it as I assumed it should just work But pulling were ignoring property. https://github.com/armbian/os/commit/a423fcbccaeb95cb9569cef582309cfe9748256a Try now.
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You could study the code and improve it. Also we haven't merge PR with lots of improvements as nobody had time to test it: https://github.com/armbian/armbian-router Mirrors are stored in database and here we are pulling them out: https://github.com/armbian/os/blob/main/.github/workflows/redirector-update.yml From there a config is generated that is passed to armbian-router AKA re-director. Perhaps new version knows that. You will need to try the one from PR and open a ticket there.
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We don't have a dedicated operator of mirrors but it seems we should appoint someone as maintaining is getting complicated despite of all automation which should prevent this to happen. This is a corner case, as it shows that mirror is synced ... but not all files are there. I have removed this mirror as its probably running out of space. Airframes maintainer responded yesterday, so I assume its back in sync.
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We do have some structure otherwise we would not be able to survive and generate millions worth of services. This recent topic, which consist of asking us to fund (slave work) additional 100.000 USD worth of services, explains one perspective. Perhaps it will open your eyes, perhaps not. It is not the first time someone is asking that we improve efficiency of self-mutilation. We are millions away from what its needed and it seems nobody wants to fund our work? This means we are probably doing useless things ... If you have the answer, if you have concrete ideas how to resolve problems, I will pay for the time. I totally understand your frustration. This is what we do 24/7. Pile of problems is still sky high and we can't do just resolving them. We have to live, we have to fight and we have to find satisfaction, that drives us.
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Please add IA32 UEFI support
Igor replied to happyzhang's topic in Framework and userspace feature requests
Armbian team have no plan/resources/budget to do this, but if someone sacrifices his time and polish this feature as expected, we will pay with respect and review the work. Every code that is sent our way is liability and that is not something we are accepting open handed. If adding this feature won't represent much burden for maintainers, we will merge it. Making PR from your side is just one part and is small if you are not going to keep it in good shape for another several months / years. The same goes for half of elderly single board computers that we are keeping alive. Its only in users interest, a little in ours. We only have costs with maintaining, while HW vendors wants from you to buy new stuff ... We already have severe problems with cost management as you expect we do everything for free, and where we receive absolutely no help from vendors or anyone. This is for us nothing but a waste of time. I hope you do understand this - maintaining is hard work and doesn't pay off in any way. And its a lot more code to maintain then people who will do it. You have to step up. -
In the name of users (sadly, I am not one of them) of this device, I am thanking you for those bits. The only reason why we have invested (100% our private cash, 0% users, 0% Lenovo) into this device is promotion of our build framework. Try it, here we will try best to help you, and make a PR: https://github.com/armbian/build/pulls
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I don't understand what are you doing - download image and install headers as proposed. It is important to reboot if you have upgraded kernel. After reboot you can install matching headers.
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Help help help, please! armbian-config -> software -> install headers
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Orange Pi Zero LTS wont start Ethernet with linux-image-6.1.0-12-rt-armmp
Igor replied to AZ8's topic in Allwinner sunxi
Then you need to tell them to fix this. -
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Igor replied to ag123's topic in Framework and userspace feature requests
It is. Start listening. What do you think we do? The problem is our resources are not endless, we can't expand and we can't pay for damages that are generated even if we do everything for free. It is similar to this example of technical problem. There are several dependencies that needs to be resolved, before idea can be taken into consideration. Until we don't have 100% financial security in advance, there is little we can move on. I can't finance any community ideas with beer level income that is coming our way https://github.com/sponsors/armbian https://liberapay.com/armbian What you are asking needs serious backing, professional management, team expansion, ... Just like most of request that are coming our way. -
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Igor replied to ag123's topic in Framework and userspace feature requests
In past 8 years we were more or less their software team if you haven't figured that out. We didn't have issues with that, they tried to cover that. We helped them and relationship was o.k. until greed took over. Just like in this attempt to abuse the project resource more efficient. We are helping you, while you never asked how we feel about and how we can pay the bills of damages you make to the project or if we perhaps need something. A way to eat food while doing this? We were driving their software support for many years, for a tiny fraction - i never wanted to go to close - of what they would need to pay for one person. Theirs I never met. We are significantly sponsoring their business and problem started when they tried to control us. At some point they said our work, which was "paid" with donation was just not good enough and we have do it better ... WTF? While their hardware, that is on the market, keep making us damages every single day (this is our fault, just saying). Remember, other party in this sick game, end user, doesn't pay neither. This CSC / Support / * status is just one of desperate attempts to draw a line. This line is commonly abused and it doesn't work for us, so we will change this strategy. Remember, this is to protect maintainers from abuse from users and contributors. You often don't know what we can do and where capacity of our integration ends. Below you can see one example as story. Frustrated users doesn't read or care if its supported or not supported. They keep applying pressure to this forum, on private channels, anywhere possible. And when I use force to remove someone, I am worse person around. And I feel that way to. Its emotional burden of this job. This was developed by @jernej and his part was probably also not paid by anyone. We did integration as this is what we often do. We received nothing from anyone to integrate this. We might get some donation from people that report this problem more then a year ago and were blocked by contributing their board to Armbian. How it went? We started dealing with this problem about a year ago. To make story short, without reworking all this code it was impossible to support Orangepi 3LTS and boards with internal nic and audio as AC200 can be set this way or another ... I won't go into details as it can take hours. We started this project several times and each time I had to review & refresh the code provided by him, met with him in person, exchange several emails, talk with other people that were involved. Conduct professional development as we used to do. My attempt was often broken by some violence from users or vendor side. Certain type of abuse require my intervention and dealing with all sorts of sh* its breaking those cycles all the time. At one point I figured out many many other things need to be fixed before we can start dealing with this problem. Then i realized our Allwinner team started to fall apart and there is nothing we can do. I had to invest time to poke the dead horses back into action. We had several meetings, we were begging people to test as my device is broken, thanks to help of testing of @Tenkawa and help of many other people we resolved remaining dependencies and last week @Gunjan Gupta was finally able to make a tested PR on the topic. It feels sick how much time we lost to resolve this problem, but has to be resolved as certain boards were not been able to add. We lost hundreds of hours and we have hard limitations how much hours we can spent. This is something we will never allow you to have control over. Or worse. To capitalist that is flooding you with free PCB so you ... -
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Igor replied to ag123's topic in Framework and userspace feature requests
How to make it clear. Armbian project is small. Too small. We don't have much resources, we are all fully over-stressed running on backup but you don't care to hear. You just want to have the same or better service, while contributing with ideas. We only have few dedicated and precious individuals, who do everything for other 1000 that contributes here and there and for those that are terrible stupid and are making damages to our project and open source at large. We are abused from Chinese capitalists on one side and their buyers (you) on the other side. It is fine if we can find a way to work together, but 0.5%, which is your financial input to this project, can and must be ignored each time you ask for something. I have expressed this too many times and you (as everyone) keep coming up with ideas what we should improve and provide. Why don't you give one month of your personal payroll on the table before asking me to put mine for you. Why do you expect I will be gambling for you in a "business" where loss is secured. Just how big is unknown. My biggest loss is communication which is why I usually tell people to fuck of so they stop asking question. Most of people that are reaching out to me or to project are seeking ways to profit, save time or just abuse. I simply can't afford to have discussion with all of them. I also have no interest and can't afford to invest my personal money into your idea, but can perhaps do it for compensation if there will be no better offer for our services. But there are enough alternative to consider. I left security of my well paid corporate job, which was by far biggest sponsor of Armbian and subsequently Orangepi PCB maker, and now I waste all days just to keep this at this level. None of the subject from this topic is helping resolving much if any of common problems. They always cared on their problems with as minimum input as possible. Armbian team also never had a single cent of budget to deal with Chinese capitalists buyers and their problems. Being polite to "customers" that can easily make us 1000 USD loss ob every 1 USD we receive from them is terrible bad. Telling you this costed several hours of calming down to be able to respond in a polite professional manner from sick and twisted relationship you are here eager to extend and upgrade ... Your requests without financial backing are just one of those ideas which are killing this place which we spent years to build. We have some interest, but absolutely no resources to share with you or any budget to pay people to work more in 3rd party interest. Neither of you are paying "electricity" needed to run this project. I project interest is to carefully pick hardware we will invest into. I know it is hard for anyone to understand but I am pretty sure we lost more then 500.000 USD with Zero series so far. And you are both coming into this discussion without any cash. No offence, I understand you desire and I support your idea with one eye, just there is nothing I can do to help. We have to stay sane. -
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Igor replied to ag123's topic in Framework and userspace feature requests
I lost more then 5 hours on an attempt to answer to this question. Its better to stop without answering, sorry. -
Did you run apt update before? https://github.com/armbian/os/actions/runs/6267098519/workflow This script checks and remove dead mirrors. https://github.com/armbian/os#latest-smoke-tests-results And here are automated tests which are switching kernels from repositories and reboots each time. Both shows not issues.
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Every SoC family (can) boot different. Dealing with custom designed hardware, which we are dealing here, is incomparable more complex then Linux in standard PC world. And its not just booting that is different.
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Igor replied to ag123's topic in Framework and userspace feature requests
All Linux distributions "supports" those boards once somebody ported this and that HW on particular Linux distro. This is the happy part, contributed by end user and thus cheap for everyone. Maintainace, keeping devices up and running long after this happy event, is something entirely different. In just about every release we lost hundreds of hours to keep devices operational. If we can't secure people to keep level how we understand support, things are declared as (Linux) community supported. This is still a lot better then generic support as a lot of our support still find the way to community targets. As it was already mentioned, its a grey zone. We can't really declare as "abandoned" or "eos" neither as we have competitors which doesn't have any troubles "supporting" HW while relying around 90-100% on our support system. In several occasions we had a clash with 3rd party users demanding (!) to fix some issues with officially unsupported targets. If its unsupported, we can deny support request without any additional lost of time. People takes this much better, in close to 100% of cases, this answers is accepted and for those few predators, rules anyway never works. Those has to be stopped by force. Keep in mind that time we lost for supporting you is almost 100% our private expenses. We are a small project, so are donations. This is best effort support and somehow we have to try to protect from abuse that is coming from constantly hunger consumers. tl;dr; You never get less support then any other Linux, just how to communicate this better?