TRS-80

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    TRS-80 reacted to Igor in diskstats bug   
    We don't record general Linux kernel bugs and we don't record user space bugs. Why not? Because covered R&D budget is zero, nothing. Your contribution to this project is about 1000x too small that we (<10 people) could afford to cover problems that are discovered in the Linux kernel or in any out of several thousands of community made and maintained code. I am talking about this round the clock, things are improving but sadly remains on the same level. We are losing opportunity to get a better code, I know, but since this project is heavily attached to our scarce time and private pocket, you really not in a position to complain or ask for more.
     
    Because most of the people have no perception on the scale of this project or their (your) questions and the fact that we can't pay millions for working hours needed to solve bugs you find and code your wishes. We established a wishes section here: https://forum.armbian.com/forum/38-feature-requests/ but TBH, even reading them is not possible. Its always a trade - helping you or dealing with our families.
     
    Now think again and remember that public level of co-funding only mitigates the problem of download / infrastructure costs. Luckily we don't need to put disgusting ads to this website to cover those expenses. You cover them. But there your contribution ends. We can't pay for to hire 1, 10 or 50 full timers that would start dealing with what "you" want for free. We rely only on a few volunteers.

    Can you change this? You have a better idea? https://www.armbian.com/get-involved
     
    Bugs we decided to and are able to work on, are recorded in our Jira: https://armbian.atlassian.net/browse/AR Only contributors can open, close or comment there. 
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    TRS-80 reacted to Piezo in CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=y harmuflull for real time applications   
    Since linux v5.4 armbian_build enables the CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED config option.
     
    Some armbian users use the soft real-time features for either real-time audio (jackd), or control (eg. klipper_host_mcu),
    However, real-time group scheduling, enabled by this options complicates the user space configuration required to acquire real-time scheduling in applications and daemons.
     
    Setting ulimit -r or LimitRTPRIO= is no longer enough, it is also required to allocate CPU time for RT task. In a brutal way this can be done as 
     
    echo 950000 > /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct/{system,user}.slice/cpu.rt_runtime_us JACK documentation recommends using cgroup-tools for configuration. This is redundant with systemd's own configuration of cgroups hierarchies.
     
    However, it is currently not possible to setup with systemd configs files: the team responded "wontfix, accounting rules for RT_GROUP_SCHED are too convoluted for systemd to support"
    The systemd's README was updated with the follwing warning:
     
    I was hesitant to open an issue on armbuild_config. The changes in the config file are quite recent (Dec 2019) and probably unintentional (kernel default).
    But, I could be missing something. Surely lots of folks use RT scheduling on their board. Maybe along with an older kernel ?
    Does real-time group scheduling have any use on SBC ?
    Do you have simpler solution for this problem (other than CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=n) ?
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from SteeMan in Please Read First   
    This is an adaptation of something @SteeMan wrote in this post, but we need to refer to it often enough that I thought I would make it into a sticky.
     
    Amlogic (S9xx) Android based TV Boxes

    1. They are not supported.
    2. A single developer (@balbes150) had worked years on getting things to the state they are.
    3. As of October 14th, 2020 balbes150 removed support for Amlogic CPUs, so that is the last build that will maybe work on your box.
    4. There is a very small number of people on this forum/club that are able to provide any guidance.
    5. Most likely no one on this forum/club has ever seen your specific box.
    6. Expectations should be set low (i.e. don't expect anything to work) but if you do get the box to boot, get HDMI and wired ethernet to work, you are doing good.
    7. You really shouldn't expect things like Wi-Fi, bluetooth, remote control, etc. to work.
    8. If you get this working on your box, it will likely only be useful for server type tasks, maybe a little light graphical desktop usage, but certainly not video/multimedia.
     
    Other RockChip (rk3399, rk3328, rk3288) and Allwinner (H5, H6) based TV Boxes
     
    9. These will continue to be supported within the limits that are possible for the equipment the devs possess.
    10. They are (in fact, have always been) CSC which means Community Support only!  In other words, not officially supported by the Armbian project!
     
    So, why even have these forums?
     
    As a place for people to try and get together and help one another.  At least it is something.
     
    Also, there used to be a lot more (better supported) activity here while balbes150 was still releasing his fork of Armbian.
     
    What other options do I have?
     
    I (@TRS-80) recommend cutting your losses and starting over, and this time around using the list of Armbian Supported Devices as a starting point for researching purchasing some other device.  Taking this approach will result in a much easier time, less hassle, better support, and usually for a much longer period of time (assuming things for your device get mainlined into Linux kernel).
     
    Even using that list as a starting point, do your homework.  As any particular device can have some little quirks / gotcha(s).  There are a lot of resources available on the (wider Armbian) forums already, please use them!
     
    @SteeMan however takes a different view.  He lay out his arguments in favor of trying anyway (see below) in spite of all the above.
     
    If you choose to go that route, at least we can say we warned you now. 
     
    Why is situation like this?
     
    Source of following quote was Armbian official Twitter, on 2020-12-02 11:23 EST:
     
     
    SteeMan also touch on this in his excellent post, below.
     
    Now hopefully you at least understand why most people may not wish to spend their own valuable free time to help someone who chose an unsupported box, mostly because it was cheap (and possibly without even doing much research beforehand).  SteeMan (and a few other guys in here like jock and some others) being the rare exceptions who relish a challenge.
     
    Good luck!
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from mkultra in Self-hosting micro- (or regular) services, containers, homelab, etc.   
    I have heard lots of people saying this, actually.
     
    I did not immediately realize the importance of your "multiarch" comment (especially for us here at Armbian!), until I was reading something at r/docker about someone who was trying to use x86 container on ARM which of course is not going to work.  As containers are, after all, just some upper part of filesystem overlay + some isolation, but still relying on underlying hardware of course.
     
    I went to linuxservers.io and was checking out their blog last night, some good and relevant articles there, IMO.  Seem like pretty cool bunch of dudes.    A much smaller (and less slickly marketed) group than I was expecting, to be honest, based on their very outsized awareness / reputation in container circles around the Internet already.  Good for them!
     
    ---
     
    Another article I came across some time ago, which I thought was a pretty good exposition of some of these various technologies and products I keep reading about around (and under) containers, including which companies they came from, along with a bit of history:
     
    You Don’t Have to Use Docker Anymore
     
    That sort of thing is very valuable for someone like me that is new to it all and may not have been following the evolution of it all along as some of you have.  I think it's also important to understand what companies are behind which technologies and why, as an important metric before investing any significant amount of my own precious personal resources (time, energy) into learning any more about said technologies (much less using or becoming more "invested" in them).
     
    One of main things I have been picking lanefu brain about is why he like certain tools he does in preference to Docker.  I don't think they mention his preferred tools in the above article, however I suspect he may agree with the general gist of it.
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from starman345 in Holiday shopping the easy way   
    I never know what to get anyone.  If I'm being honest I have more than a little disdain for how commercialized the holidays have become nowadays.  We were not raised in a materialistic way growing up.  A lot of gifts were socks and other actually useful things like that (which I only appreciate now as I get older ).  Anyway...
     
    So when some of the guys shared some pictures of themselves with some Armbian swag in IRC a while back, a little light bulb went off in my head. 
     
    So this morning, I went nuts and spent > 400 USD sending everyone in my family some Armbian swag.    I figure, it's a good way to get the word out there to friends and family about a project I care a lot about, while supporting the project a bit financially at the same time.
     
       
     
    I don't expect anyone else to spend that sort of money, in fact I am a tight wad and rarely do, myself.  But a coffee mug or something might be nice?
     
    I also don't like to rush people (because I don't like to be rushed, myself), however if you are going for delivery before the holidays I would place your order ASAP, maybe even today.
     
    One final gotcha, their credit card processor apparently only allow 2 orders per day.  Luckily I had sent orders to other family first, because my third order was denied.  I called their customer support and they confirmed this issue and told me to try again after 24 hours.  So the stuff that is coming here for us I will place that order (again) tomorrow.  I just wanted to give everyone a heads up about that though.
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    TRS-80 reacted to Igor in Upgrading cubox-i Buster from Kernel 5.7.y to 5.8.y breaks ethernet   
    Probably the only permanent solution is constant maintenance which will not come just like that - you need dedication, lot of free time and cash. We can't cover nothing at the degree users would want - already most of the project costs goes from our private budgets and it is always dealing with our goals / problems / families or solving never ending problems that bug users.
     

    Feels good!  A (rare) compliment usually helps to move things on, but we are too low on resources and swamped out with core things to move things around and fix after some random problem in upstream Linux kills support for certain device. It happens all the time ...
     
    We are asking people / your for help all the time so we could build things up - both are coming slowly, but significantly slower and totally out of sync from what you/users would wants to have.
     
    Helping people which could perhaps look and fix this someday?
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    TRS-80 reacted to Ammonia in Only HDD 1 & 2 power up   
    I ordered a replacement MOSFET (same model), including a drop-in replacement from vishay with better power ratings (just in case it should happen again). Unfortunately shipping is taking longer than it should. I temporarily bypassed the MOSFET to get all the hard drives to boot up so I could transfer the more important data. I was hoping fixing it would be faster than receiving a replacement board - and for me dealing with UPS is playing Russian roulette. Fixing it by replacing a 13-14 cent component is the better option for us both. Hopefully I won't ruin the board in the process!
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from NicoD in Holiday shopping the easy way   
    I never know what to get anyone.  If I'm being honest I have more than a little disdain for how commercialized the holidays have become nowadays.  We were not raised in a materialistic way growing up.  A lot of gifts were socks and other actually useful things like that (which I only appreciate now as I get older ).  Anyway...
     
    So when some of the guys shared some pictures of themselves with some Armbian swag in IRC a while back, a little light bulb went off in my head. 
     
    So this morning, I went nuts and spent > 400 USD sending everyone in my family some Armbian swag.    I figure, it's a good way to get the word out there to friends and family about a project I care a lot about, while supporting the project a bit financially at the same time.
     
       
     
    I don't expect anyone else to spend that sort of money, in fact I am a tight wad and rarely do, myself.  But a coffee mug or something might be nice?
     
    I also don't like to rush people (because I don't like to be rushed, myself), however if you are going for delivery before the holidays I would place your order ASAP, maybe even today.
     
    One final gotcha, their credit card processor apparently only allow 2 orders per day.  Luckily I had sent orders to other family first, because my third order was denied.  I called their customer support and they confirmed this issue and told me to try again after 24 hours.  So the stuff that is coming here for us I will place that order (again) tomorrow.  I just wanted to give everyone a heads up about that though.
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from forever_ noob in Holiday shopping the easy way   
    I never know what to get anyone.  If I'm being honest I have more than a little disdain for how commercialized the holidays have become nowadays.  We were not raised in a materialistic way growing up.  A lot of gifts were socks and other actually useful things like that (which I only appreciate now as I get older ).  Anyway...
     
    So when some of the guys shared some pictures of themselves with some Armbian swag in IRC a while back, a little light bulb went off in my head. 
     
    So this morning, I went nuts and spent > 400 USD sending everyone in my family some Armbian swag.    I figure, it's a good way to get the word out there to friends and family about a project I care a lot about, while supporting the project a bit financially at the same time.
     
       
     
    I don't expect anyone else to spend that sort of money, in fact I am a tight wad and rarely do, myself.  But a coffee mug or something might be nice?
     
    I also don't like to rush people (because I don't like to be rushed, myself), however if you are going for delivery before the holidays I would place your order ASAP, maybe even today.
     
    One final gotcha, their credit card processor apparently only allow 2 orders per day.  Luckily I had sent orders to other family first, because my third order was denied.  I called their customer support and they confirmed this issue and told me to try again after 24 hours.  So the stuff that is coming here for us I will place that order (again) tomorrow.  I just wanted to give everyone a heads up about that though.
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    TRS-80 reacted to Igor in NanoPi R2S - OTG g_serial(ttyGS0) not working   
    Branch "desktop", which is going to be merged in 1-2 months, also supports native arm64 compilation. You can build things on your board. No excuses  (but its currently in WIP state so it might break)
     
     
    What we don't have are resources to deal with "everything". Plans to implement this or that can easily be extended over few releases. A year can slip by and there are slim chances that features just show in mainstream.  Sometimes they do, but usually much later. 
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from mkultra in Buyng a new board to replace my Banana PI   
    Generally speaking, there are several boards meeting your requirements, as "server" use-cases (as opposed to "desktop") have been much better supported for a much longer time now.  I used Cubietruck for such tasks for very long time (and still do) however there are better boards available nowadays for actually even less money (read on).
     
    Now to specifics, I used to think SATA was necessary, too, until I read this glowing review of particular USB to SATA adapter by tkaiser (from 2017!).  Surprisingly, this device is still available here.  I have several of them and they have worked well for me.
     
    If you are willing to consider such adapter (instead of strictly sticking with SATA requirement, which as you noticed is more rare), this of course open up the possibilities a lot.  When I needed to buy another little "server" board a year or two ago, I chose ODROID-XU4 at that time which are (like Cubietruck) still 32-bit, however still quite powerful with a lot of CPU and USB3 and RAM, etc. and can be had for ~60 USD these days.  Other than the adapter caveat, this meet all your requirements and I think you might be happy with, I know I (and others) have been.  I think they went down in price because they are "only 32-bit" however this means (to me) just a good deal to be had (maybe?).    To make "apples to apples" comparison, you will need to add the price of PSU, eMMC, SATA adapter, etc. to that figure, though.
     
    And that is where I personally am at, currently.
     
    Now going forward, there are a lot more newer and more interesting boards, especially some of RK3399 (64-bit) based ones as Werner brought up.  One of these will probably be my next purchase at some point.  They will cost a little more (I think?) but as always, add costs of PSU, flash (eMMC or sdcard), etc. to get the full picture on any price comparison.  Some of RK3399 even support fancy stuff like NVMe, etc.
     
    One final generality, I always recommend to stick to Armbian Supported Devices list as a starting point for any research.  But you probably know that already.    And remember, even some boards that look great "on paper" can have little gotchas, or be better for this use case or that, e.g., N2 have most raw power in CPU but is limited by I/O.
     
    I learned that on some NicoD (YouTube) video, he has made some good ones, maybe you want to check them out.  He is focused more on "desktop" usage, but has a lot more experience with a lot more boards than I do, especially some of these newer ones and so I find his videos still very informative.
     
    Let us know your thoughts more and how your research is coming along, if the right person see your post maybe they save you from one particular little problem or another.
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    TRS-80 reacted to balbes150 in Architecture for adding additional desktop enviromnents, and application groups   
    Results of a quick test of the native build using the Desktop version. For tests, I tried to build several options - XFCE \ MATE \ KDE in the "minimum" and "maximum" configuration for Station P1\M1 with the current and legacy core. The "minimal" configuration is an option where no group is selected on the last package selection screen. "Maximum" configuration-all package groups are marked. The build (native) runs without errors and the output is working images. Offer. Add the "standard" options in the settings (the necessary packages are selected automatically without additional user steps), this option is equal in the set of installed packages to the current position (the set of packages is equal to those that are currently installed in DE XFCE master branch). The "maximum" is automatically marked for all the available this DE packages (options). Custom setting ("minimum") when entering it, as now, no packages are marked, the user can, not specify anything, then the output will be the "minimum" version of DE or the user chooses the necessary groups\packages.
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    TRS-80 reacted to sgjava in XU4 gpio device line names   
    So if you look at the device tree you'll see pin controllers like GPA0, GPA1, etc. I'm not sure how the kernel gpio device enumerates them, but basically a chip is a pin controller and lines are the pins. The main thing is soon you'll be able to look at a pin map and know exactly which physical pin it is.
     
    Also gpioinfo seems to sort by chip string instead of int, thus 2, 21, 22, etc. are all 2s
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    TRS-80 reacted to Igor in small guide for setting up an upstream kernel development setup on the NanoPC-T4   
    Thank you for documenting the steps you made and thank you for actually reading the documentation (first). Most of the people try first, then complain on forums and only then they check documentation
     
    It will help us to improve the system and also to check if upcoming structural changes / improvements, which are planned to be merged within 4-6 weeks,  will not break what you just achieved / the user customisations. Changes are mostly related to desktops, but some basic principles are also changing / improving on the way.

    You are ofc welcome to propose code changes!
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    TRS-80 reacted to Werner in I can not write armbian to a flash card   
    That is normal. Unlike other distros Armbian does not use crappy stone-age FAT32 filesystem on sd card. Simply put it into your SBC and it will work.
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    TRS-80 reacted to ScottP in Orange Pi 4 PCIe Link Speed?   
    I have a NanoPC T4 (RK3399) with Friendly ARM ubuntu distro NOT Armbian as yet - I plan to migrate hence why I am reading these forums
    If this provides a data point?
    scott@hass:~$ sudo lspci -vv | grep -E 'PCI bridge|LnkCap' 00:00.0 PCI bridge: Fuzhou Rockchip Electronics Co., Ltd Device 0100 (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])         LnkCap:    Port #0, Speed 5GT/s, Width x4, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L0s <256ns, L1 <8us         LnkCap:    Port #0, Speed 8GT/s, Width x4, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L0s unlimited, L1 <64us scott@hass:~$ sudo hdparm -t /dev/nvme0n1p2 /dev/nvme0n1p2:  Timing buffered disk reads: 1784 MB in  3.00 seconds = 594.26 MB/sec  
     
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    TRS-80 reacted to MaxT in Backup TVHeadend / conf files   
    In /home/hts there are two hidden folders:
    /home/hts/.hts and /home/hts/.xmltv

    stop tvheadend, tar profile which is in /home/hts like here http:// https://askubuntu.com/questions/834717/recursive-tar-compression
    on another system stop tvheadend, untar profile, start tvheadend.

    I guess that you will have to manually check that dvb cards are properly mapped
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from Werner in La-Frite (AML-S805X-AC): Unreadable text in virtual terminal (wrong resolution?)   
    It appears you are correct!  I don't have this board and never noticed that before.
     
     
    I will move it to the appropriate forum now.
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from pazzoide in Buyng a new board to replace my Banana PI   
    Generally speaking, there are several boards meeting your requirements, as "server" use-cases (as opposed to "desktop") have been much better supported for a much longer time now.  I used Cubietruck for such tasks for very long time (and still do) however there are better boards available nowadays for actually even less money (read on).
     
    Now to specifics, I used to think SATA was necessary, too, until I read this glowing review of particular USB to SATA adapter by tkaiser (from 2017!).  Surprisingly, this device is still available here.  I have several of them and they have worked well for me.
     
    If you are willing to consider such adapter (instead of strictly sticking with SATA requirement, which as you noticed is more rare), this of course open up the possibilities a lot.  When I needed to buy another little "server" board a year or two ago, I chose ODROID-XU4 at that time which are (like Cubietruck) still 32-bit, however still quite powerful with a lot of CPU and USB3 and RAM, etc. and can be had for ~60 USD these days.  Other than the adapter caveat, this meet all your requirements and I think you might be happy with, I know I (and others) have been.  I think they went down in price because they are "only 32-bit" however this means (to me) just a good deal to be had (maybe?).    To make "apples to apples" comparison, you will need to add the price of PSU, eMMC, SATA adapter, etc. to that figure, though.
     
    And that is where I personally am at, currently.
     
    Now going forward, there are a lot more newer and more interesting boards, especially some of RK3399 (64-bit) based ones as Werner brought up.  One of these will probably be my next purchase at some point.  They will cost a little more (I think?) but as always, add costs of PSU, flash (eMMC or sdcard), etc. to get the full picture on any price comparison.  Some of RK3399 even support fancy stuff like NVMe, etc.
     
    One final generality, I always recommend to stick to Armbian Supported Devices list as a starting point for any research.  But you probably know that already.    And remember, even some boards that look great "on paper" can have little gotchas, or be better for this use case or that, e.g., N2 have most raw power in CPU but is limited by I/O.
     
    I learned that on some NicoD (YouTube) video, he has made some good ones, maybe you want to check them out.  He is focused more on "desktop" usage, but has a lot more experience with a lot more boards than I do, especially some of these newer ones and so I find his videos still very informative.
     
    Let us know your thoughts more and how your research is coming along, if the right person see your post maybe they save you from one particular little problem or another.
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from devman in Self-hosting micro- (or regular) services, containers, homelab, etc.   
    I wanted to share an article I came across, I thought was pretty good.  Keep in mind I am starting from zero with Docker recently, if you are already familiar, this article might be too basic for you.  The article walks you through several of basic Docker tasks (create, run, inspect, ssh into, etc.) on command line:
     
    Getting started with Docker for the Inquisitive Mind
     
    They have other related content on their site as well which I have only skimmed so far, but it looks pretty good.  I always appreciate websites with clean looking CSS that work well (including mouseover effects) without requiring JavaScript to be enabled (which I block by default). 
     
    What's everyone else been up to?  Come on, don't be shy now. 
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from devman in Self-hosting micro- (or regular) services, containers, homelab, etc.   
    I have been having some long running, on and off discussion with @lanefu in IRC (and elsewhere), because I know this is his area of expertise.  However he is busy, and I can appreciate he might not want to spend his free time talking about stuff he gets paid to do M-F. 
     
    Then I also realized, certainly I am not the only one interested in Armbian in order to be doing such things.  So I thought I would make a thread about this, instead, to open the discussion to a larger group people here in the broader community.
     
    I have my own thoughts, concerns, things I want to do, and have already done, but I thought I would make a more general thread where like minded people can discuss their experiences, what has worked (or not), what services you might be running (or would like to), etc.
     
    I guess I will begin by saying I have been running some services for family and friends, first on a Cubietruck since maybe 2017 (or earlier?) and then later on some ODROID-XU4 in addition.  I run XMPP server (Prosody) which has been very hassle free "just works" as well as some experiments into Home Automation and other things which have had some, well let's just say mixed results. 
     
    Currently my interest is in containers and like technologies, but I am very new to it.  I been reading a lot, but there is so much to know and I can't help but feel I am a bit late to the game.  That's by design though, as I don't like being (too) early of a technology adopter, generally speaking.  Well, certainly not with such "hyped" technologies like containers, anyway.
     
    In fact I thought it was a bunch of baloney and hype for a long time, but even cranky old cynic like me now sees some advantages of abstracting things, changing servers/services from "pets" to "cattle" if you will, for reproducibility, redundancy, and other reasons.
     
    Anyway, I am prone to walls of text of idiotic ramblings, so I will stop here and give some others a chance.    Hope everyone is enjoying their holiday weekend so far. 
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    TRS-80 reacted to sgjava in XU4 gpio device line names   
    OK, so while documenting the Armbian patch process I needed something actual to patch. I added gpio-line-names to the device tree, so now all lines are defined. Once I finish the documentation I'll PR this patch. No more guessing what physical pin is! At some point it might make sense to put in jumper and physical pin #.
     
     
     
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from aaditya in Booting ROCK Pi 4(A/B/C) with mainline u-boot in SPI, NVMe and Armbian v20.11.x   
    (emphasis mine)
     
    That's the spirit!   
     
    IMO, everyone who play with SBC should own at least one.  In fact, it's on my list to add that to the docs, right in "Getting Started" section...
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    TRS-80 got a reaction from lanefu in Please Read First   
    This is an adaptation of something @SteeMan wrote in this post, but we need to refer to it often enough that I thought I would make it into a sticky.
     
    Amlogic (S9xx) Android based TV Boxes

    1. They are not supported.
    2. A single developer (@balbes150) had worked years on getting things to the state they are.
    3. As of October 14th, 2020 balbes150 removed support for Amlogic CPUs, so that is the last build that will maybe work on your box.
    4. There is a very small number of people on this forum/club that are able to provide any guidance.
    5. Most likely no one on this forum/club has ever seen your specific box.
    6. Expectations should be set low (i.e. don't expect anything to work) but if you do get the box to boot, get HDMI and wired ethernet to work, you are doing good.
    7. You really shouldn't expect things like Wi-Fi, bluetooth, remote control, etc. to work.
    8. If you get this working on your box, it will likely only be useful for server type tasks, maybe a little light graphical desktop usage, but certainly not video/multimedia.
     
    Other RockChip (rk3399, rk3328, rk3288) and Allwinner (H5, H6) based TV Boxes
     
    9. These will continue to be supported within the limits that are possible for the equipment the devs possess.
    10. They are (in fact, have always been) CSC which means Community Support only!  In other words, not officially supported by the Armbian project!
     
    So, why even have these forums?
     
    As a place for people to try and get together and help one another.  At least it is something.
     
    Also, there used to be a lot more (better supported) activity here while balbes150 was still releasing his fork of Armbian.
     
    What other options do I have?
     
    I (@TRS-80) recommend cutting your losses and starting over, and this time around using the list of Armbian Supported Devices as a starting point for researching purchasing some other device.  Taking this approach will result in a much easier time, less hassle, better support, and usually for a much longer period of time (assuming things for your device get mainlined into Linux kernel).
     
    Even using that list as a starting point, do your homework.  As any particular device can have some little quirks / gotcha(s).  There are a lot of resources available on the (wider Armbian) forums already, please use them!
     
    @SteeMan however takes a different view.  He lay out his arguments in favor of trying anyway (see below) in spite of all the above.
     
    If you choose to go that route, at least we can say we warned you now. 
     
    Why is situation like this?
     
    Source of following quote was Armbian official Twitter, on 2020-12-02 11:23 EST:
     
     
    SteeMan also touch on this in his excellent post, below.
     
    Now hopefully you at least understand why most people may not wish to spend their own valuable free time to help someone who chose an unsupported box, mostly because it was cheap (and possibly without even doing much research beforehand).  SteeMan (and a few other guys in here like jock and some others) being the rare exceptions who relish a challenge.
     
    Good luck!
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    TRS-80 reacted to hexdump in Free and Libre Open Source SBC List Thread   
    but those are fixed ip cores in the hardware and not loaded later - if you want to get rid of those i think you have no chance to get a useable system going at all ...