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Igor

Help on forum moderating

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Forum is getting messy and I am getting more and more complains about. Traffic is going up and we / people are always prone to seek shortcuts. Its already enough that just a few people are posting wrong content at wrong location that forum gets a bad smell. Personally I and those few active moderators can't do more than we already do. We already use all possible technical equipment to limit the spam, but merging/moving wrongly posted topics can't be done by AI. At least not today.

Please, take a look - all is written there - and apply:

In case you truly want to contribute to this community as a moderator but you don't have enough days or posts require for nomination, please say something at this post.

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Hi Igor,

 

it would be an honour to help you on your project. I highly respect this forum and I'm really interested in ARM Technologies and Debian based distributions. My hat's off to the guys at Armbian to manage a huge project like this :thumbup:
Besides that I'm using SBCs for server solutions another attempt to get a deeper look into ARM technology was to deal with Banana Pi products on Amazon. This attempt cost me a lot of time and in the end I almost lost my company too. The product line of SinoVoip or Bipai Keji (HK) Limited got messier each month. After they fired my main supporter anything got worse. Since then I'm seeking for a new opportunity for my company to get a footstep into the ARM world. Especially the Armbian Forum.

 

I ceased the Amazon sales last week. Therefore I have a few hours left each week for a new project. So the time would be perfect to support an opensource project. If you're interested, I'd looking forward to get to know each other on the Armbian Forum.
What might interests you as well is that I worked as a first level supporter, almost for elder people, for 3 years. So I know my place if something gets out of control and people gets angry or confused.

The only problem I may see is if you need moderators with short reaction times or too much hours each day. I think I can handle work like once, maybe twice, a day for something around an hour or so - 12/5.

I'm looking forward to read you

Best Regards, _r9
 

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6 hours ago, _r9 said:

it would be an honour to help you on your project. I highly respect this forum and I'm really interested in ARM Technologies and Debian based distributions. My hat's off to the guys at Armbian to manage a huge project like this

 

Thank you! For this and for your help in the past.

 

6 hours ago, _r9 said:

So I know my place if something gets out of control and people gets angry or confused.

 

I don't know if we are generally there yet, but forum ( and me) is getting out of control from time to time. That's my observation, which could be wrong. 

 

6 hours ago, _r9 said:

The only problem I may see is if you need moderators with short reaction times or too much hours each day. I think I can handle work like once, maybe twice, a day for something around an hour or so - 12/5.

 

We need reinforcements, otherwise it will remain as is not so good. Hopefully more people will step up since it will be easier for everyone and the only way to keep forum readable, conduct some minimal policy and trying to improve forums on a long run. We want as flat structure as possible - being a moderator should be technical not a political function to limit our power games. Armbian is a technical forum - we don't delete content, but merge, move, reorganise. We ban bots that breaks automated spam machine, we don't ban people unless idiot level is obvious, but warn users when derived from https://forum.armbian.com/terms and https://forum.armbian.com/guidelines

 

Mistakes will be done on both sides. Which is normal and expected.


People that have moderators rights and are relatively active are: @NicoD @JMCC @chwe @TonyMac32 @balbes150 @lanefu 

 

Any objections, otherwise welcome!

 

Inactive: @pfeerick @Xalius @StuxNet (and will be removed shortly if no response)

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Hi Igor.

 

I do not have the rights to accept the offer as moderator.  

But i would like to help, i can't maintain a Kernel or develop..  But sure i want to help in the forum to move wrong posting and edite here and there.  It should be nice place to seek information, also for beginners. 

Nobody want to seek information a place where you get the feeling of being arduous.

 

I have 20 years self-taugght computing/hardware skills.

If i could help in some way just let me know.


Best Regards.

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Application page says my content count is not high enough. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

I am of German descent though, so I like to keep things organized. :D

 

I am having a little more time now, so I could spend a few hours a week on the forums.

 

I've been looking for a way to contribute more, as I think this is a very important project. Perhaps this will be the way...

 

Incidentally, I tend to idle in IRC when online, I know the #armbian channel is not official, but I could also help with our presence there.

 

Edited by TRS-80
add last sentence; typo

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Hiya, I would love to apply to the moderator position if it is still needed. 

I am a computer addict and I have worked with Windows, Linux, MacOS since the 1990s.

I have experience with many hardware platforms (Raspberry pi 3+, building a PC with ASUS motherboard and Intel CPU, several Macs started with PPC Mac and now on MacBook Pro and a Hackintosh).

I am just starting to use an ASUS Tinker Board and my latest project is to emulate Amibian (Amiga emulator) on it.

I have used forums extensively and I believe that I know the forum and moderator etiquette and need for moderating spam and general forum discipline.

I personally like forums where moderators reply promptly to any queries on the forum by welcoming newcomers and directing them to post in existing threads or tagging the posts people put up without reading the forum. I also like moderators to curate new posts so that they get placed in existing threads.

I hope your position is still available and I would like to apply.

Personally, I am retired and have plenty of time to dedicate to the forum. My professional background is engineering PhD and have a long experience in consulting.

Please get in touch by PM if you wish to pursue this contribution!

Thanks for all the work you guys have done for the ARM Universe! 

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11 hours ago, soerenderfor said:

But sure i want to help in the forum to move wrong posting and edite here and there.  It should be nice place to seek information, also for beginners. 


Moderating forum mainly does not require deep understanding of technology we are working with. Most of the needs are pretty obvious and are connected with people's bugs - laziness, egoism, impatience, ... somebody needs to take action. More people, ideally from different time zones, would bring the pressure of maintaining this forum down to the normal levels. And make this place nicer to use.

 

11 hours ago, soerenderfor said:

I have 20 years self-taugght computing/hardware skills.

If i could help in some way just let me know.


If we focus just on forum. Perhaps it needs some adjustment, cleanup (old stuff), changes (forum re-arranging), preparing and leading new moderator actions like this one once activity fades out? I don't know. I am present everywhere ... and nowhere :(  Forum also has many features we don't use ... but one might find useful. Its a toy which I have little time / joy to play with.
 

11 hours ago, soerenderfor said:

i can't maintain a Kernel or develop

 

What about BASH scripting? If you (anyone) have some experiences or just want to expand know-how, scripts around https://github.com/armbian/config needs more people than two to be able to bring it out of beta stage. Code need reviewers, comments, analysis.

 

Welcome!

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9 hours ago, TRS-80 said:

I am of German descent though, so I like to keep things organized. :D

 

I am having a little more time now, so I could spend a few hours a week on the forums.

 

I've been looking for a way to contribute more, as I think this is a very important project. Perhaps this will be the way...


I also like to keep things in order, but forum and this project is too big for me since a long time ago. Keeping this thing organised can only be done together. I appreciate your willingness to do your share!

 

9 hours ago, TRS-80 said:

Incidentally, I tend to idle in IRC when online, I know the #armbian channel is not official, but I could also help with our presence there.


#armbian channel is unofficial for one very banal reason :rolleyes: It doesn't have a recording device -> irclogs.armbian.com I tried to fix this once - by reaching out to IRC server staff to acquire OP status which is needed to install a bot, now its years ago, but failed. Then this task simply faded off the radar. It has been more than 25 years since I was installing IRC bots so I also feel a bit rusted doing that ... if you can fix this, #armbian can become official at once and I will also be there more often.

Herzlich willkommen!

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Hiya, I have written what I believe to be an application to become a moderator of this forum. I received a reply of  @NicoD calling @Igor to take action. Then @Igor replied to @soerenderfor who does not be a member of the forum?? 

Well, I shall wait a while ....

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8 hours ago, Vanitarium said:

I have used forums extensively and I believe that I know the forum and moderator etiquette and need for moderating spam and general forum discipline.

I personally like forums where moderators reply promptly to any queries on the forum by welcoming newcomers and directing them to post in existing threads or tagging the posts people put up without reading the forum. I also like moderators to curate new posts so that they get placed in existing threads.

I hope your position is still available and I would like to apply.

 

I welcome you to the forum and to the moderators team!

First task is perhaps to get this thread in order - remove not needed posts? :P 

 

Edit: In case someone doesn't have rights - logout - login might help.

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Igor,

 

I would be happy to assist as a moderator.  I've been a moderator on a number of forums in the past and would love to help out the Armbian community.  I tried to apply through the link bit do not have enough posts.

 

I am on the east coast of the US (GMT-5).  Please let me know if I can assist.  

 

Thanks!

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8 hours ago, Igor said:

#armbian channel is unofficial for one very banal reason :rolleyes: It doesn't have a recording device -> irclogs.armbian.com I tried to fix this once - by reaching out to IRC server staff to acquire OP status which is needed to install a bot, now its years ago, but failed. Then this task simply faded off the radar. It has been more than 25 years since I was installing IRC bots so I also feel a bit rusted doing that ... if you can fix this, #armbian can become official at once and I will also be there more often.

 

Odd. I did IRC stuff many years ago as well but it should not be a big deal to register a channel for a group and therefore gain op status in it...

Maybe I find some time to take a look into that.

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5 hours ago, jsfrederick said:

I would be happy to assist as a moderator.  I've been a moderator on a number of forums in the past and would love to help out the Armbian community.  I tried to apply through the link bit do not have enough posts.

I am on the east coast of the US (GMT-5).  Please let me know if I can assist.  


Granted! Thank you.
 

1 hour ago, Werner said:

Maybe I find some time to take a look into that.


Great!

 

Forum is our common problem and it should be moderated according to that. We created some https://forum.armbian.com/terms and https://forum.armbian.com/guidelines. Read and use them, change if needed and keep in mind that people usually don't read them ... remember when you read the small print last time?

 

I have no intention to lead forum moderation - tell you what to do, but I will tell you if you went to far ... I expect the same treatment - I am just a forum user. (even I do have the same power and more as you do). There are topics which need to be sorted out - merge or move - and there are important topics which are floating in the see of banal - I work on this when I find some time which is less and less. Important stuff should be pinned and some, that are there are not relevant anymore, unpinned. If you can not decide on a specific case, but its important, speak up here, publicly. Only if there is a special need for privacy, in private. Administrator rights - for changing more critical things on the forum - contact @lanefu and me. We are both quite busy, so perhaps we shell also expand this role later on if you will come up with lots of ideas for changes.

 

Can't believe how quick we sorted this out. :) And as a side effect, perhaps an IRC channel might get live soon. Thank you!

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8 hours ago, Igor said:

hint for new moderators

 

One of my first thought was wondering if there were enough of these type of little advices to make a wiki page or moderation sub forum, or maybe just a sticky post?

 

I think such a resource would help to get new moderators up to speed more quickly, and also lessen the impact of inevitable turnover. Maybe as I get to grips with how to perform this new job over the coming days and weeks I could start to collect some brief notes (from perspective of someone brand new to it) and see if such thing will even be necessary...

 

I am really excited about being able to contribute to such an important project! :)

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Thank you Igor.

I will read the term and guidelines and moderate accordingly.

And you are correct, I really did not read them when I joined.

I am happy I can contribute to the Armbian project.


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