Igor Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 - A64 - strange naming "win" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkaiser Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Ok, let's try to spot the technical details: A64 with 1 GB DRAM A64's single USB2.0 host port connected to a GL852G hub providing 4 type A receptacles USB OTG available as Micro USB port Gigabit Ethernet using RTL8211E PHY AP6212 providing both Wi-Fi and BT 3 pin debug header IR receiver 24 pin CSI camera connector (most probably compatible to Xunlong's GC2035 2MP camera) 24 pin LCD connector (Edit: due to pinmuxing with RGMII for Ethernet it's MIPI DSI -- 1920x1200@60fps max) 2 buttons, microphone, 40 pin GPIO header, another 4 pin header eMMC possible to be populated but not included in $25 standard offer 2MB SPI NOR flash (according to Aliepxress listing) 4 pin header for 'power selection', board can be powered through 4.0/1.7mm barrel jack, Micro USB (don't do this!) or battery (solder pads on the bottom PCB side) Audio out and Mic in available on 3.5mm TRRS barrel The naming scheme points to Win10 IoT and hardware details seem to make it possible to use settings that are compatible to BPi M64. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Few more things to add: - SPI and eMMC flash optional, not in all/both versions - those 4 pins are jumpers to switch between power connector and OTG+battery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkaiser Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, Igor said: SPI and eMMC flash optional, not in all/both versions That makes somewhat sense, at least always providing SPI flash when eMMC is not populated (allowing to netboot and so on then). I still fail to understand the powering scheme (there's no battery connector and AXP803 PMIC should be able to be fed through DC-IN, OTG and BAT at the same time and decide which sources to use?). But that doesn't matter that much since A64 isn't my favourite toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hojnikb Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 If this has li-ion support, it should be somewhat interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKayser Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Actually.... that 4 pin header might actually be related to battery connection. Would explain the location. Not sure about the jumper, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zador.blood.stained Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, SKayser said: Actually.... that 4 pin header might actually be related to battery connection. Would explain the location. Not sure about the jumper, however. Similar 2x2 pin jumper is used on Pine64 and SoPine baseboard to switch 5V distribution for several subsystems to bypass the step-up converter. In this case it's possible that is a 2-pin jumper + battery connection on other 2 pins since I see a "Battery" label under it and don't see any other headers that could be used for connecting the battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jernej Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 7 hours ago, tkaiser said: 24 pin LCD connector More precisely, MIPI DSI connector, because that is the only type of LCD connector left if you implemet gigabit ethernet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKayser Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, zador.blood.stained said: Similar 2x2 pin jumper is used on Pine64 and SoPine baseboard to switch 5V distribution for several subsystems to bypass the step-up converter. In this case it's possible that is a 2-pin jumper + battery connection on other 2 pins since I see a "Battery" label under it and don't see any other headers that could be used for connecting the battery. Yeah, that's probably it. And I wasn't sure if I was imagining things, but it really looks like BAT. So... I guess this board actually has battery support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjorn Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 7:04 AM, tkaiser said: The naming scheme points to Win10 IoT and hardware details seem to make it possible to use settings that are compatible to BPi M64. Their forum post seems to confirm that this board is indeed oriented towards Win10 IoT From their forum admin: A new board from Xunlong would be released soon, which named Orange Pi WIN.This new board could run on Windows IOT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eli Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Orange-Pi-Win-Development-Board-A64-Quad-core-Support-linux-and-android-Beyond-Raspberry-Pi-2/1553371_32798200305.html?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.2dw06p its available now, but wt* with the shipping price 4.05$?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hojnikb Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Yeah, this is too expensive. If it had 8GB of emmc, i'd say ok, but this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkaiser Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 12 hours ago, eli said: shipping price 4.05$?! Just order 100 pieces, then shipping per board gets as low as $1.71 Apart from that the Aliexpress listing confirms a few more suspections above (Mic also available in the TRRS plug, solder pads for battery but I doubt the 2MB SPI NOR flash and would believe it's 2Mb instead) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hojnikb Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 i guess if dram/nand flash prices wouldn't be as high as they are, i guess we would get eMMC for that kind of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zador.blood.stained Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, tkaiser said: solder pads for battery Yes, now I see them on the bottom picture photo of the board's bottom 17 minutes ago, tkaiser said: I doubt the 2MB SPI NOR flash and would believe it's 2Mb instead I think 2Mb is too low to be useful enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinayotte Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Since this SPI-NOR seems to be a SOICW package, not SOIC, it must be bigger than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@lex Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Can someone check if it is possible to attach RTC Backup Battery? Quote Since this SPI-NOR seems to be a SOICW package, not SOIC, it must be bigger than that. What is the real use for this? Edited March 16, 2017 by @lex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zador.blood.stained Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 25 minutes ago, @lex said: Can someone check if it is possible to attach RTC Backup Battery? Don't think so based on available info. Since "main" battery should be connected with soldering pads it will be used for keeping the RTC too. 25 minutes ago, @lex said: What is the real use for this? Storing the u-boot for USB or PXE boot (especially for the variant wothout eMMC). Don't know if it will be used with Win10 IoT (and honestly don't care) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@lex Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 18 minutes ago, zador.blood.stained said: Don't think so based on available info. Since "main" battery should be connected with soldering pads it will be used for keeping the RTC too. Storing the u-boot for USB or PXE boot (especially for the variant wothout eMMC). Don't know if it will be used with Win10 IoT (and honestly don't care) Thanks for the answer. What would be the boot order then? SD CARD, SPI-NOR, NAND and finally eMMC? Maybe a new BOOT0 would be needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zador.blood.stained Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, @lex said: What would be the boot order then? SD CARD, SPI-NOR, NAND and finally eMMC? Same as for other Allwinner SoCs, if FEL button (if exists) is not pressed: https://linux-sunxi.org/BROM SD0 NAND not tested since there are no A64 based devices with NAND available SD2 (eMMC) SPI flash FEL mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zador.blood.stained Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, @lex said: Maybe a new BOOT0 would be needed? Yes, but most developers are interested in mainline where SPI booting works already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john0815 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Might it be possible to connect a 2nd Monitor (Vga, dvi, hdmi) for dualhead System via adaptor or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zador.blood.stained Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Orange Pi Win Plus with 2GB RAM and black PCB color is available: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orange-Pi-Win-Plus-Development-Board-A64-Quad-core-Support-linux-and-android-Beyond-Raspberry-Pi/32803012893.html Looks to be an Orange Pi Plus 2e and Orange Pi Prime form factor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuti Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 4 hours ago, zador.blood.stained said: Orange Pi Win Plus with 2GB RAM and black PCB color is available Definitely Xunlong guys are out of control! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hojnikb Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Black PCB is a nice touch, i wish more boards would have this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vovolixo Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 So, I'm interested in this board but waiting for a little more of.....support. There is a guy on the feedback section of the AliExpress page saying he managed to boot a NanoPi A64 Ubuntu img on the Win board. I was wondering, what are the imgs that might be functional on this board? NanoPi A64, Pine64, BPI M64? I know that lot of the stuff will not work, but anyway, is this possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@lex Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 15 hours ago, vovolixo said: So, I'm interested in this board but waiting for a little more of.....support. There is a guy on the feedback section of the AliExpress page saying he managed to boot a NanoPi A64 Ubuntu img on the Win board. I was wondering, what are the imgs that might be functional on this board? NanoPi A64, Pine64, BPI M64? I know that lot of the stuff will not work, but anyway, is this possible? Here is my take on this matter: Pine64 and BPI-M64 img does not boot on NanoPi A64 NanoPi A64 img boots on Pine64 and BPI-M64, but not without tons of errors Judging by the OPI Win Wifi/BT (AP6212) the best candidate to work out-of-the-box is BPI-M64 img. Better wait for the OPI Win Plus Plus (eMMC) and try mainline 4.10... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariuszb Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 There are no dedicated images for this card yet on armbian.com. Armbian is not yet fully tested on this board ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 It's still WIP but you can build on your own with our tools ... we plan to put testing images during a weekend / next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariuszb Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Thanks for info Igor, The big advantage of this card ( I suppose it also has a lot of disadvantages ) is that it has an LCD interface, probably the first such OPi. I'm curious what the displays will work properly. Also the difference between A64 and H5 is a little confusion for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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